Halo 22 - Beside You in Time

[00:00:53] Speaker A: Step right up. It's nailed. A halo by Halo journey through the music of Nine Inch Nails. I'm Jessica. [00:01:00] Speaker B: I'm Blake. [00:01:02] Speaker A: Hi. [00:01:04] Speaker C: That was good. You did a good job. [00:01:06] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:01:07] Speaker B: You remembered all the words. [00:01:08] Speaker A: Thank you. No script. No script. [00:01:11] Speaker B: I didn't remember them the first time we tried this. [00:01:15] Speaker A: It's. [00:01:15] Speaker C: So. [00:01:16] Speaker B: This one is Halo 22, baby. [00:01:18] Speaker A: That's right beside you in time. [00:01:20] Speaker B: The live concert film on Bluray. [00:01:26] Speaker A: Well, for us, it was Blu ray. [00:01:27] Speaker C: Yeah. DVD, HD, DVD, Laserdisc, VHS, beta, beta, Mac. Yeah, beta. [00:01:38] Speaker B: No live album accompaniment, though, like we had with. And all that could have been. [00:01:43] Speaker A: And you know what? That's a goddamn shame. [00:01:45] Speaker B: It kind of is a shame. [00:01:46] Speaker C: Yeah, that would have been cool. [00:01:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Hey, before we dive into this, though, do we have any nine inch news? [00:01:53] Speaker B: So everything is in the news today. We have an update on the Hideo Kojima. I probably fucked that up. The news about the video game man who made the death stranding and the Metal Gear solid. People speculate he and Reznor and Ross are working together for a new scary game. And it looks more likely because Hideo has been posting himself, meeting up with Reznor and Ross on the instagram. Got a nice little shot of the. [00:02:29] Speaker A: Three of them hanging out, posted some autographed albums. Looks like the social network and. Pretty hate machine. [00:02:36] Speaker B: Yeah, he had them sign his cds, it looks like. [00:02:42] Speaker A: Oh, and then there was one more thing he posted that was actually. I don't know what this is. It's a device, but it has. I mean, is this a zoom? I don't know what the fuck this is. It's not a zoom, but it has a picture of a cassette. Immigrant song turn resident Atticus Ross featuring Karen O. Have you seen that one? [00:03:01] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I saw that one. I figured it was some app that looks like. With a cassette interface or something. I don't know. [00:03:11] Speaker A: Kind of like how Tidal used to have the spinning record. [00:03:13] Speaker B: Yeah, something like that. So he's listening to immigrant song. Is that a clue? I hope Karano is coming back to collaborate. That would be sick, because that song was sick. [00:03:23] Speaker A: That was a very sick collab. I agree. [00:03:27] Speaker B: So maybe they're doing some music for this spooky game. Or maybe they're just real good friends. [00:03:35] Speaker A: Or isn't there a movie being made of death stranding? [00:03:38] Speaker C: Yeah, I heard that there was, but. [00:03:42] Speaker B: I guess maybe Death Stranding already had a composer. [00:03:46] Speaker C: But could be. [00:03:47] Speaker B: I don't know. Nothing is confirmed, so speculate all you want. [00:03:55] Speaker A: Could be they're just buddies, right? [00:03:57] Speaker B: Yeah, we've been disappointed before. [00:03:59] Speaker A: And hideo's kind of like, listen, I just want to promote my friends in this underground band, nine inch nails. [00:04:04] Speaker B: I'm just saying, I like this band. They sign my cds. [00:04:08] Speaker C: Okay. [00:04:10] Speaker B: I think that's all the news we have, though. [00:04:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. [00:04:15] Speaker B: Okay, should we get into it then? [00:04:17] Speaker A: Let's do it. So before we start, can I play a little promo clip? Actually, it's a long promo clip, but just to give listeners an idea, in case they've never watched this before. [00:04:29] Speaker B: Was this like played on primetime tv or something to get people excited, you know? [00:04:35] Speaker A: I don't know. This is the extended trailer. My guess is that it was put up on the. They made like a little promotional page. Halo 22 dot N.com. My guess, it was. It was up on there. [00:04:44] Speaker C: Yeah, probably. [00:04:45] Speaker B: I didn't see it on tv. [00:04:47] Speaker A: I didn't either. Okay. Just. [00:04:57] Speaker B: Kind of visuals we got here. [00:04:59] Speaker A: Trent Reznor looking all sweaty in his sleeveless shirt. [00:05:05] Speaker B: This is the sweatiest concert I've maybe ever seen. It really is a lot of hand that feed. [00:05:17] Speaker A: This is the extended trailer, by the way. 24 songs in high definition. [00:05:26] Speaker B: Finally high definition, unlike that last one from wish. [00:05:32] Speaker A: Lots of strobe lights, lots of sweat, lots of silhouettes. Those are the three main things on this tour. [00:05:39] Speaker B: The three f's, strobes, strobe sweat, silhouetes. I thought they should have called the. [00:05:46] Speaker C: They should have called it. [00:05:47] Speaker A: Let me name your tours. [00:05:51] Speaker C: This was a highlight of the show for sure. Eraser. [00:05:58] Speaker A: You rain. [00:06:03] Speaker B: He's getting a sampling of the visuals, I'm guessing. I'm not looking at it right now. Yeah, I'm just hearing it. [00:06:14] Speaker A: Down. [00:06:15] Speaker B: We're seeing the monkey attack the birds right now. [00:06:19] Speaker A: It's like soldiers. [00:06:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:06:26] Speaker A: Man, I love a good hurt, sing along. [00:06:33] Speaker B: Emotional climax of the show. [00:06:38] Speaker C: This is really good hurt, I gotta say. [00:06:45] Speaker B: The rock and roll version of only preview of that. [00:06:54] Speaker A: I gotta stop thinking. [00:06:58] Speaker C: We got the triple h. Of course. [00:07:03] Speaker A: That'S. It tells you the formats. [00:07:07] Speaker B: Go run out when it's available. HD dvd before they're gone forever. [00:07:14] Speaker A: Okay, so that's just a little taste of. I mean, you can't see it, but that's just a little taste of what? [00:07:21] Speaker B: Taste of sound here. [00:07:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:23] Speaker B: And we're not playing the whole show, so just go and watch it, I guess. [00:07:28] Speaker A: Definitely go and watch it. [00:07:30] Speaker B: You probably have. [00:07:31] Speaker A: I'm going to withhold final thoughts until the end, but it is pretty amazing. [00:07:36] Speaker B: Final thoughts. Okay. [00:07:37] Speaker A: Yeah. We're not doing rankings anymore, right? [00:07:40] Speaker B: We're not rating inch ratings. Yeah, I get. We can if we want, but unless there's some outcry for us to start doing it again, I don't think there will be. I like it, or I don't like it, or it's kind of mid, or just use that kind of. [00:07:59] Speaker A: There we go. So Halo 22 beside you in time released on February 27, 2007. The formats. It was released on dvd, Blu ray, HD dvd, no CD release. Sad shaking guy. That's in my notes. [00:08:16] Speaker B: Still only one live album ever officially from Nin, and I think it's good that there's not, like, 20 live albums. That's always overkill when bands do that. But this was a good ass live performance or group of performances. [00:08:37] Speaker A: Very good. I probably resner at, like, peak. I don't want to say peak. I want to say the best he's ever been live so far, maybe. At least when it comes to tension. [00:08:50] Speaker C: He was pretty damn good. That's later so far. Okay. [00:08:56] Speaker A: I mean, I'm not saying that the performances, obviously, that I've seen from earlier tours were bad or anything, but I think that his voice has never sounded better. [00:09:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I was almost shocked at how good, top of his game, vocal wise, he was. [00:09:16] Speaker C: Sobriety is a lot of that. [00:09:18] Speaker B: We talk about that in the bonus feed. We talked about the tours in general. [00:09:23] Speaker A: Yes. So this show, there were two dates that were recorded to make this release. [00:09:30] Speaker B: And you can tell because there's two shirts. [00:09:32] Speaker A: Well, I'm not sure there is a wardrobe change. Not sure if that was something he did for both of those shows. So it was consistent. Or if one show he was sleeveless, and one show he wore the sleeves. [00:09:45] Speaker B: I think it's two nights because a wardrobe change would be tough. [00:09:49] Speaker A: It's just a top. [00:09:51] Speaker B: Unless it. [00:09:52] Speaker A: Yeah, but, I mean, you saw how sweaty he was. [00:09:56] Speaker B: No, I know. You know how hard it is to pull off drenched clothing. It's a difficult maneuver. Maybe when he's behind the screen, when it goes back down for the middle of the set and everything's dark, you don't see Trent for a while. That would be the time to do the wardrobe change, if there is one. Actually, if people who were there because we weren't, tell us if you saw a wardrobe change, that's what's important about these shows. The clothes, not the music. [00:10:22] Speaker A: Well, we will talk about that on the fashion app. [00:10:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:10:25] Speaker B: Fashion is going to dissect this big. Now, there is some fashion, a lot of fashion on this concert film, I got to say. [00:10:36] Speaker A: Who was your favorite Luke. [00:10:38] Speaker B: Oh, that's tough. [00:10:39] Speaker A: I like Alessandro's little jacket. [00:10:41] Speaker C: He had a good jacket. [00:10:42] Speaker A: Very good jacket. It's kind of militaryish fitted. I like the zipper on the arm. [00:10:49] Speaker B: I mean, Aaron north had pretty extreme love. [00:10:52] Speaker A: His leather long coat, long jacket, blazer. Like a long line blazery kind of jacket. [00:10:58] Speaker C: I don't know. Right. [00:11:00] Speaker B: But some choices were made. Some hair choices were made. Some eyeliner choices were made. [00:11:07] Speaker A: Lots of vineliner choices. [00:11:08] Speaker C: There's lots to look at. [00:11:10] Speaker A: Yeah. So those dates, anyway, were March 20, eigth 2006 in Oklahoma City and March 30, 2006 in El Paso. [00:11:20] Speaker B: Interesting that it's all middle America. [00:11:24] Speaker A: Would El Paso be considered southwest, not middle America? [00:11:30] Speaker B: I don't think anybody considers Texas southwest. [00:11:34] Speaker A: I don't know. Where isn't El Paso kind of. Hold on, I'm looking. [00:11:37] Speaker B: Maybe Texas is its own thing, but I'm just saying it's not coastal. No, it's not like big city elite places. [00:11:47] Speaker C: It's shitholes. [00:11:49] Speaker B: And I'm allowed to say that because we live in a shithole. [00:11:52] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm going to say El Paso's fucking southwest. It's right under Mexico. [00:11:56] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:57] Speaker C: Okay. [00:11:57] Speaker A: And also, I don't think Texas is considered a flyover state like every other state in the Midwest is, because people know Texas. [00:12:04] Speaker B: No, but people from the coasts consider everything between flyover. [00:12:08] Speaker A: That's true. And we're not. [00:12:11] Speaker B: I'm just saying we're feeling a little bit of pride that these two shows come from here. In the flyovers. [00:12:19] Speaker A: I'm always happy to see the flyovers. [00:12:23] Speaker B: Represented, because you don't see it much. [00:12:26] Speaker A: And I'd love to see it. Okay. For instance, we saw Liz fair in Oklahoma City. Right. [00:12:30] Speaker C: We were just there. [00:12:31] Speaker A: She came out and played, and after her first track, she was surprised, I think, by the energy from the crowd, because she was like, holy shit, oklahoma. And we were like, yeah, I just want to say we never get anything, so we're excited for everything that comes. [00:12:46] Speaker B: Right. Nothing comes here. [00:12:47] Speaker A: Nothing comes here. Yeah. [00:12:49] Speaker B: We still have to drive 4 hours. Give you an idea of where we live. [00:12:53] Speaker A: So before these shows, though, Reznor announced on Nin.com message boards that these dates would be recorded in hd video for a future release. But I want to point out that other dates were recorded on Nin access. A question was submitted by Craig, who said, first, thank you for the best gig I've ever been to. Fourth July at Brixton. That gig couldn't have come at a better time to help me deal with some shit I'm desperately trying to get tickets for the 14th now, blah, blah, blah. Here we go. A couple of questions, though. I noticed at the show there was a few video cameras about the place. Was it being filmed for a new live dvd? And Reznor said, we filmed and recorded the two Brixton shows. I'm not sure what we'll do with it yet, but I felt the band has solidified nicely and we're nearing the end of this phase of the tour. So other dates have been recorded. [00:13:44] Speaker B: We see some of those on the special features. Right. [00:13:47] Speaker A: Well, we see the summer amphitheater tour. [00:13:49] Speaker B: Okay. [00:13:50] Speaker A: And you can really see the differences between the stage design. [00:13:53] Speaker C: It would be really cool stagecraft, some. [00:13:56] Speaker B: Cool bars with lights hanging in front of the band. [00:14:00] Speaker A: Yeah. And then an edited version of Beside you in Time aired on DirecTV's the 101 network in March of 2007, edited. [00:14:08] Speaker B: Imagine how lame that would be. Even pay per view in 1994 had an unedited Woodstock. [00:14:20] Speaker A: So before we go track by track, I don't know that I have a lot to necessarily say about most of these other than that was great. That was great. Just a few details. Well, yeah, few credits. This was directed and edited by Rob Sheridan. Dave Rave, oakleby did the stereo mix. There's a name we all know. [00:14:40] Speaker B: I didn't know that until I saw the credits at the end. [00:14:43] Speaker A: Dave Rudd. My guess is no relation to Paul Rudd, but I don't know is director of photography. He's a DP. [00:14:49] Speaker B: Must be. [00:14:51] Speaker A: Lighting and stage design was done by Leroy Bennett and Martin Phillips. Visuals for the tour were by Martin Phillips, Rob Sheridan, Trent Reznor and Alastair Watson. And the projection films for Eraser and right where it belongs were done by Andrea Jacobi. Hope I'm saying that right. [00:15:07] Speaker C: Oh, interesting. [00:15:08] Speaker B: So it wasn't sheridan who did the. [00:15:11] Speaker A: No. I thought we talked about this on a different bonus. I might have, but yeah, no, it was. [00:15:16] Speaker B: Oh yeah, we did. Because we watched the right where it belongs. I don't remember which version of it was. [00:15:25] Speaker A: Version two. [00:15:26] Speaker C: That's right. [00:15:27] Speaker B: When we were talking about that. Yeah, we watched a live version of it with the imagery, the people dancing et. Okay, so I was thinking that was Sheridan, but no, it wasn't. [00:15:39] Speaker A: So Rob Sheridan also gives special thanks to Sonic Solutions and Microsoft in the liner notes. I guess that Sonic Solutions accelerated the development of authoring software to incorporate features for the release and Microsoft modified their vc one encoder to better deal with the dynamic HD concert video. I have no idea what any of this is that I'm saying, but apparently some programs were modified or accelerated in development in order to get this project done. [00:16:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm too dumb to fully understand that, but I guess just the encoding. [00:16:17] Speaker A: Well, we do have an email from a listener named Chris and blake. Do you want to read it here? [00:16:23] Speaker B: Yes, a very kind patron named Chris sent us a really cool email and apparently had something to do with the Blu ray production. [00:16:36] Speaker C: So I'll just read it here. [00:16:39] Speaker B: Chris said, from a technical standpoint, there are only small differences between the HD DVD release. Very hard to find now, and you'd. [00:16:47] Speaker C: Have to have a player that could. [00:16:48] Speaker B: Play it and the Blu ray more readily available. When these came out, they were one of the first, if not the first, concerts on the new formats, and Rob had a lot of learning to do to get them right. He ended up working with some of the people at Microsoft as both versions used the vc one video compression codec. Okay, which was fairly new at the time and still going through some growing pains. The main difference from a video standpoint is the Blu ray format will not do a progressive video signal with 60 p content, which is what the concert was filmed at. 60 p is pretty common for concerts. And Nvidia is stored as 30 p to keep files down. Okay, so it like unfolds to 60 from 30. So the Blu ray resolution is 1920 by 1080 and 30 frames per second interlaced, while the HD DVD was 1920 by 1080 at 30 FPS progressive as opposed to 1080 I 30 p is better than I. I do know enough to know that P is double the scan lines. As I. From my vague understanding, this is really only a concern if the player used. [00:18:03] Speaker C: To play back the Blu ray disc. [00:18:05] Speaker B: Doesn'T do what is called de interlacing. Well, converting the interlace video to progressive video, you need a player that does de interlacing in a two by two cadence. Man, I'm sorry that this is so. The tech nerds are going to love this shit. Well, otherwise you may occasionally see horizontal lines around the edges of objects from time to time, especially with motion. Sounds like a Rob Sheridan video to me. Some people are really sensitive to this, others may not be. The audio is the same on both and was one of the first concerts to be encoded in lossless multichannel audio, Dolby True HD. And let me tell you, it sounds great. And we did play it in Dolby digital through our five one receiver. [00:18:55] Speaker A: We also played it in stereo. Yeah, thanks, Dave. [00:18:57] Speaker B: We listened to the Ogilvy Mix. Had to listen both ways. Okay. Pretty much all Chris continues pretty much all av geek stuff. But for those that may watch the concert again to revisit that, see problems as, again, most people have the Blu ray version. At least they would know why now. [00:19:15] Speaker C: Okay. [00:19:16] Speaker B: And then some further kind words from Chris. And thank you very much, Chris. [00:19:21] Speaker C: So, it's really cool that we got. [00:19:23] Speaker B: To talk to somebody who was. Now, I can't remember if he was involved in. Well, whatever he was involved in on the technical end of the release. I'm too dumb to understand anyway, but pretty cool. I think Chris does, like, home theater stuff now. And I was like, come fix our living room set up, because I don't know what I'm doing, but I don't think I can afford Chris anyway. [00:19:53] Speaker A: Well, I mean, we'd have to pay for. [00:19:56] Speaker B: Right, right. [00:19:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Seems too expensive. Actually, before we get into the meat and potatoes, the actual live performances, do you want to talk about the bonus features? [00:20:08] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [00:20:10] Speaker A: Okay, so let's do the summer tour first, because they did include footage from that. [00:20:18] Speaker B: This is stuff that happened after the march shows, obviously, that make up the main concert movie. [00:20:27] Speaker A: Mainly. What is different is the stage setup. Instead of having a curtain screen that drops down or just a screen that drops down. [00:20:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:41] Speaker A: The lights that drop down before them, they kind of look like blinds. I don't know what you would call it. [00:20:46] Speaker B: Well, they're horizontal. Horizontal lines, like bars, almost like prison bars have dropped in front of them. [00:20:52] Speaker A: Except they're. [00:20:53] Speaker C: Yeah, with lights. [00:20:55] Speaker B: It's kind of like lattices that have Christmas lights on them. And for, like, a light show at. [00:21:02] Speaker A: Christmas, I think it looks like window blinds. But lit up. Yeah, because there are footage of. But, like, opened because there. It's some still photos that you can see of Trent behind them. And it looks like he's peeking out through blinds to me. [00:21:16] Speaker B: Sometimes he's just straight up hanging off them. [00:21:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:19] Speaker B: They're really reaching his arms through. [00:21:21] Speaker A: Yeah. I thought that was really cool. [00:21:24] Speaker B: There's a little cool thing during closer where it looks like the red lights are filling up. This red column, like blood or something is dripping down, and it's filling up and up until the column is filled, and only one of the columns of lights is there. [00:21:42] Speaker C: The others have, like, raised up. [00:21:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:44] Speaker B: So they can adjust them. But closer is always red no matter what. I'm loving the color coding of songs. It really has remained. Sorry. I can't think of words. [00:21:59] Speaker A: Consistent. [00:22:00] Speaker C: Yes. [00:22:02] Speaker B: Remain consistent for, like, decades now. And my brain likes that kind of thing. [00:22:07] Speaker A: So the tracks that they included from the summer tour somewhat damaged. So a fragile track. Closer. Help me, I am in hell love to hear that. Non entity and only. And for some reason, I thought the summer tour version, or at least this recording of only, went way harder than the. [00:22:31] Speaker C: I did it. [00:22:32] Speaker A: I don't know why I thought that. [00:22:34] Speaker B: Yeah, probably just because they had played with it a little bit longer. I don't know. Yeah, they were a little tighter on it. Help me, I'm in hell was really cool. Just because you don't hear that every day. [00:22:46] Speaker A: My notes. Cool red floaty lights. [00:22:51] Speaker C: Oh, for. [00:22:51] Speaker B: Help me, I'm in hell. [00:22:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:53] Speaker B: It almost kind of looked like underwater red bubbles or something floating around. It was cool. That one was mostly visual. [00:23:01] Speaker A: Oh, my. Closer notes. Here we go. Hanging on. Great light thingy. [00:23:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:23:06] Speaker A: Obviously, I did not know what to call these. I still don't. [00:23:09] Speaker B: Yeah, you said it was like the. [00:23:12] Speaker C: Jail for cool people. [00:23:13] Speaker A: Well, that was a line from Beavis and from the wish video, but, yeah, it's like prison for cool. [00:23:19] Speaker B: It is a little throwback to the wish video where they're behind bars. [00:23:23] Speaker A: Also, I wrote hot after that, so I guess it was hot. [00:23:27] Speaker B: Love to see caged men. [00:23:29] Speaker A: I really do put more men in cages. That's what I say. [00:23:32] Speaker B: Men in cages. [00:23:36] Speaker A: Non entity. [00:23:38] Speaker B: Non entity. [00:23:39] Speaker A: I just wrote Tambo Trent. [00:23:41] Speaker B: Yeah, he's tamboing hard. It's a fine performance. Maybe even a little better than, like, the live or the album cut. [00:23:51] Speaker C: Not album cut, but I want to say recorded version. [00:23:54] Speaker A: Almost every single with teeth performance is better live than on the album. [00:23:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I was kind of thinking that, too. That's just the way the songs are for the most part. They're all about live drums, live guitars, less electronic, and they go even more rock band mode on most of these. [00:24:16] Speaker A: Yeah, it's really good. All right, so there is also footage from the 2005 rehearsals which took place, I don't know, February, March of 2005, before the club tours started earlier. Yeah. So there are a ton of tracks for this. In fact, you can go to Nin live archive and you can download all of the rehearsal performances. A ton. Like 37 damn starts with gave up. I mean, there's a lot of fragile stuff on here, too. The day the world went away, starfuckers. [00:24:50] Speaker B: They were just doing everything just like a smatter. [00:24:54] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, there's just a ton of stuff. The frail, the wretched are included on here. Also, you could hear sunspots before it was played live for the first time in 2022. [00:25:03] Speaker B: I don't know why they decided not. [00:25:05] Speaker C: To go ahead with it, but I don't know. [00:25:07] Speaker A: All the love in the world, which I don't think was played live until 2013. You can hear that, right? Anyway, the recording is from a soundboard. I think a crew member was the one who sent it into Nin live archive. [00:25:21] Speaker C: Okay. [00:25:22] Speaker A: And they're only available in mp3 s here. Anyway. I don't know if you can get them in better sound anywhere else, but good enough. I am totally going to already downloaded them. So I'm going to listen to all of this. The only ones I've heard are the ones that are included on the Blu ray. [00:25:41] Speaker B: Right. I haven't heard most of these. [00:25:43] Speaker A: Yeah. And I want to spend more time with them. So maybe in the future, if we're running out of bonus up ideas, we'll come back and cover the with teeth rehearsals because we need more time to spend with them. [00:25:55] Speaker B: Yeah. But a lot of it, I imagine, is kind of like the love is not enough that is included on the. [00:26:03] Speaker C: Blu ray here, where they're still working. [00:26:06] Speaker B: Out the kinks on a lot of these. I'm guessing, you know, it's a new band other than Jerome, who, spoiler alert, doesn't make it to this concert. [00:26:18] Speaker A: Not. At least he was in one of the concert. Yeah. [00:26:24] Speaker B: He got to be on and all that could have been. Can't be on two. I guess that was the rule. [00:26:27] Speaker A: The rule. Leo won't date women over 25. And Trent won't allow you to be. [00:26:33] Speaker B: On more than one. [00:26:34] Speaker A: Be on more than one dvd. [00:26:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:36] Speaker A: Or live performance. Sorry. [00:26:38] Speaker B: This was a really different feel than all that could have been. [00:26:44] Speaker A: Definitely. Let's talk about the rehearsals, though. Let's see my notes. The collector is where I started. [00:26:52] Speaker B: Yeah. That rocks a little harder than. [00:26:56] Speaker A: Way harder. [00:26:56] Speaker B: The album. They're all a little more punk rock, a little more messy, and a lot of that is Aaron north being wild. [00:27:08] Speaker A: I wrote Aaron. Holy fuck. That's my notes for the collector. [00:27:13] Speaker B: He's going ham. He's basically always doing the most on every track. [00:27:19] Speaker A: Also fashion notes. Sorry, I'm going to do a spoiler, but there are some wardrobe changes. Trent is wearing a white shirt in this one and has an armband tied around his arm. [00:27:30] Speaker B: He's wearing these button up shirts for all these performances. I think for all the rehearsal. [00:27:39] Speaker A: For love is not enough, though. I wrote no armband question mark. [00:27:43] Speaker B: He's got white shirt with black armband, red button up with black armband. And then one of them has a darker. I don't know. I don't know what the armband's about. What does it mean? [00:27:54] Speaker A: I'm going to try to investigate it. [00:27:56] Speaker C: Okay. [00:27:56] Speaker B: I know the armbands come back in. [00:27:58] Speaker C: The year zero era for sure. [00:28:00] Speaker A: Honestly. Maybe he was just inspired by the sartorial choices of Interpol, who, like, maybe. [00:28:06] Speaker C: I wouldn't be shocked. [00:28:08] Speaker A: Carlos D would wear, like, I don't know, holsters and shit. Like, weird. [00:28:14] Speaker B: They're getting a little too military. It's kind of like that early punk stuff. Almost. Almost too, like, fashion inspired. [00:28:24] Speaker A: Fashion inspired fashion. [00:28:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:26] Speaker A: Gotta say that I kind of excited about year zero because I do love military inspired looks. [00:28:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:34] Speaker A: I think it's probably because they're very tailored and so they're like, yeah, the. [00:28:38] Speaker B: Clothes are fitting a lot more tight. [00:28:40] Speaker A: Yeah. And I love a good epilette. Give me an epilette any day. Sorry, I'm getting too fashiony. [00:28:45] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll get there. [00:28:46] Speaker A: But I did write the floppiest hair since 7th grade. Jonathan. Lots of flop there. [00:28:52] Speaker C: His hair is super duper that. [00:28:55] Speaker B: We got the floppy middle part. Curtain bangs on these rehearsals. That is all shaved away by the time they're recording. Beside you. In time, thankfully, we got a much tighter buz cut going for. [00:29:10] Speaker A: Every day is exactly the same. I did manage to track down that he had a red tambourine to match his red shirt. [00:29:16] Speaker B: Yeah, you got to coordinate there. This was kind of a weird one. I think they were still working out a lot of kinks and obviously they decided not to go with it on the main movie. It's weird to hear that song with, like, the Jordy's dirty bass instead of the synth bass, which we love, but it's just like rock band version of everyday is exactly the same. I don't know. I don't know how I feel about it. [00:29:46] Speaker A: Don't love how do you feel about. [00:29:48] Speaker B: Love is not enough in the rehearsals. Don't love it was not tight yet. Jerome was not in lockstep with the electronic sequenced percussion stuff that was going on. And they were fighting each other a little bit, which I don't think they needed that stuff at all. It's not on the record, but I think freese does a lot better. [00:30:22] Speaker C: On. [00:30:22] Speaker B: Beside you in time for the love is not enough beat. I think by the time they get to that, it sounds way better. [00:30:28] Speaker A: Yeah, much tighter. Is there anything else you want to say about mean? I loved watching just. I just think that's. It looked really intimate, even though it was very loud. And. [00:30:46] Speaker C: The. [00:30:47] Speaker B: When Alessandro plays the piano part at the beginning of every day is exactly the same. It's a really boring sounding piano patch compared to the distressed piano on the record. I don't know if that's the way he kept it for further performances or not, but I don't know. That's just something that I noted. [00:31:11] Speaker C: Okay. [00:31:12] Speaker B: Anything else? [00:31:13] Speaker A: I don't really have anything else. I was more focused on the wardrobe and. I'm very sorry. [00:31:18] Speaker B: You're focusing on the wrong thing. [00:31:20] Speaker A: I really am. I'm the worst. [00:31:23] Speaker C: Mostly it's just chaotic. [00:31:25] Speaker B: It rocks. It's really harsh versions of these songs. [00:31:32] Speaker C: Yeah, harsher. [00:31:34] Speaker A: So, one more thing before we move on to our track by track. The booklet for the beside you in time dvd contains a year zero arg clue that points you to solutions backward initiative. We'll come back to this when we start talking about year zero, but just to know. And also, it's not the booklet. They tell you on Ninwiki that it's the booklet. It's not the booklet. [00:32:02] Speaker B: It's harder than that. And we had to have it pointed out for us. [00:32:05] Speaker A: It's actually the insert. Yeah, the insert underneath the. Yeah, it's like the packaging. [00:32:13] Speaker B: The dvd. In CD, you'd call it the tray liner. Yeah, but you have to pull it out from behind the tray. [00:32:22] Speaker A: The packaging? [00:32:23] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like the back of the COVID and you have to turn it sideways and. [00:32:30] Speaker C: Yeah, it says salute. [00:32:33] Speaker B: I didn't bring it. [00:32:34] Speaker C: Should I go get it? [00:32:34] Speaker A: Yeah, go get it. [00:32:35] Speaker B: I need to show you. Right, because you haven't seen it, have you? [00:32:38] Speaker A: I honestly feel like it's a magic eye thing, because I don't know what you're talking about. [00:32:42] Speaker C: It is. [00:32:43] Speaker B: And we were told that if you look at it from further away, maybe this will help because you're kind of far away. [00:32:49] Speaker A: Okay. [00:32:49] Speaker B: I think it was our listener, Glenn, who had to tell us, and he had to show us on his. But I pull the insert out and turn it sideways, and it says. It kind of just looks like Rob Sheridan. Pixel lines, vertical on the art. But when it's horizontal, obviously when you turn it sideways, you see solutions. Backwards initiative. [00:33:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:18] Speaker B: You can make it out way better from far away. But can you. [00:33:27] Speaker C: See? There it is. [00:33:28] Speaker A: Okay. [00:33:29] Speaker B: Then all the nin nerds started googling that phrase and lo and behold, found year zero clues. Yeah. [00:33:38] Speaker A: We'll get to that, though. Okay. [00:33:41] Speaker B: I feel like I clever, though, putting it in this. [00:33:44] Speaker A: I would never have thought to look there. If I'd been participating in the arc, I would have given up first round. I'd been like, I don't know what the hell's going on. I'll just let other people do it and follow them. [00:33:55] Speaker B: They were definitely thinking about it before as they were still working on with teeth era stuff or still releasing it. [00:34:05] Speaker C: It would be like if we were. [00:34:08] Speaker B: Putting clues for our year zero podcast series at some point in this era. [00:34:15] Speaker A: I mean, we might have already. [00:34:17] Speaker B: We might have. You're going to have to comb through every second we've ever recorded. [00:34:21] Speaker A: There are no clues. [00:34:26] Speaker B: I'm not saying there won't be any. Maybe I put some in that you don't know. [00:34:30] Speaker A: Oh, shit. Well, I told you I gave up on the game already. I'm not going to do it. Okay. That's all I got for kind of basics. Can we take a quick break and then come back and do our track. [00:34:39] Speaker B: By track run through these tracks? [00:34:41] Speaker A: Yeah. All right. We took a quick break. We had to line our windows with towels. [00:34:59] Speaker B: It's negative 50 degrees here. [00:35:02] Speaker C: Not really, but it's very, very fucking cold below freezing. [00:35:05] Speaker A: Yeah. We have ice forming on the inside of our house again, just like last year. [00:35:10] Speaker C: So the actual beside you in time main feature. Right. [00:35:18] Speaker B: Are we just going to go through. [00:35:19] Speaker C: Track by track listing what we noticed? [00:35:23] Speaker A: Sure you can. My notes are terrible. [00:35:28] Speaker B: Mine were scribbled frantically in the dark. [00:35:30] Speaker C: But I think I still got some good insights. [00:35:34] Speaker A: Let me tell you about my closer note. It just says Trent on little platform. That's how I have that note. [00:35:40] Speaker C: I have that same note, too. [00:35:41] Speaker A: That's how deep my notes are. [00:35:44] Speaker C: That was an important visual thing, though. This was our first time. [00:35:48] Speaker B: Well, we've watched it a few times. [00:35:50] Speaker C: Now, but we only saw it for. [00:35:52] Speaker B: The first time a few weeks back. Or was it the end of 2023? [00:36:00] Speaker C: So we're new to this, so we're coming at this with new eyes. [00:36:05] Speaker A: This was one halo that both of us had not interacted with and decided to save it. [00:36:09] Speaker C: Right. It's like I'm saving it for the podcast. [00:36:12] Speaker B: So you're getting not quite a live react, but a newbie react. Somehow I just missed out on this. [00:36:22] Speaker C: In 2007, I was working at Barnes. [00:36:28] Speaker A: Yeah, you were at Barnes. [00:36:29] Speaker C: Not when this came out. I wasn't at Barnes yet. [00:36:32] Speaker A: Were you still in Chicago? [00:36:33] Speaker B: Yes. [00:36:34] Speaker A: Okay. [00:36:35] Speaker B: But a lot was going on in. [00:36:36] Speaker C: My life, and I just missed it. [00:36:39] Speaker A: Also, I'm not good at, like, when I was younger, I was really into live, uh, vhs and stuff like that. Like, I had closure. And there was a corn one I had, and there was like a rage against the machine. I mean, I had a bunch and I would watch them all the time, but as I've gotten older, the only concert performance that I watch over and over again has stopped making sense. [00:37:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I've seen that like ten times. It's just one of the best concert movies ever made. Endlessly watchable and entertaining. [00:37:09] Speaker A: Yeah. And I'm not saying that this is not a great concert, by the way. It's just as I got older, that kind of devotion, I guess, or the amount of time it takes to watch these kind of things. I just didn't have it. I was working. I think I had two jobs. I just didn't have a lot of time to sit around and watch this kind of stuff. And also, I kind of wasn't interested. I'll just say that I was like. [00:37:32] Speaker C: I was at a low point in interest. But then when year zero dropped, I did get really interested in that. So maybe I just was not in a live concert movie mood and I didn't have a good way to watch it at home. [00:37:46] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. I did not have a blu ray player. [00:37:48] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. It came out on dvd, but not as cool. I didn't have a way to play surround sound. Definitely, if you get a chance, watch it both ways. The five one sounds great to me. The five one in this sounds better than. And all that could have been. [00:38:07] Speaker B: I think it's used a little better. [00:38:11] Speaker C: The stereo also sounds pretty good, which we watched last night. The one interesting thing about, or one funny thing about listening in surround sound to these concert movies, though, you'll hear like, Aaron North's guitar will be like violently in the right surround for most of the show. [00:38:33] Speaker B: So it's like way off to the. [00:38:34] Speaker C: Side or even behind you, depending on where you put your speakers. It's fun to watch it or to listen at home. It's not really how it is going to a show. Yeah, you don't just hear one guy's guitar behind you and the other guy's guitar is over on the left. [00:38:53] Speaker A: It can be kind of jarring. [00:38:55] Speaker C: It can. Which is cool in a way, because you're like, oh, Trent's whispering in my left ear. All of a sudden. [00:39:02] Speaker A: It doesn't feel natural. [00:39:03] Speaker C: No, it's not. Which I love a lot. Know unnatural studio tricks. That's my whole trade. But just know that it's different than being there. Obviously, we've all been to shows. We know that there's a difference in sound. I don't have to tell you, but what you're hearing at shows is mostly mono music, or at least dual stereo. [00:39:24] Speaker B: Everything's being pumped out of the speakers. [00:39:27] Speaker C: For the most part the same. Some people do trickery, including Nin, some of it where things are different on the left and right, but it can't be that wildly different as it is in the home theater. Five one setup. Because let's say you're on the left side of the stadium. [00:39:43] Speaker B: What? [00:39:44] Speaker C: You don't deserve to hear Aaron north like the people on the right side do. No, it doesn't work that way. So it's a fun little experiment doing the surround sound concerts. But it is obviously the home thing is not going to be like it is in the stadium or whatever, hearing mostly mono sound sources anyway. [00:40:08] Speaker B: That's just my little. [00:40:09] Speaker C: I know your eyes glazed over and all, but that's the kind of shit I think about when I hear concerts that's like my roman empire every once in a while, I think, hmm. Concerts are mostly monoral. [00:40:25] Speaker A: Do you know what my roman empire is? We've talked about this recently. Trent Reznor's hair or something you said as a joke. Because I told you. Well, I think I messaged lisa, and I was like, I can't remember why we were talking about this, but I said something about, like, Trent Reznor's oxblood pants are from the march of the pigs video are something I think about, like, every day. And then I told you that, and you were like, is that your roman empire? And I was like, maybe. [00:40:55] Speaker C: Yeah, that sounds about right. [00:40:57] Speaker A: Yeah. I love those oxblood leather pants. [00:41:01] Speaker C: That roman empire thing with men meme that was going around is funny. I don't think I think about it. Did they say men think about it every day? [00:41:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. [00:41:11] Speaker C: I think. I think about it at least once a month. A few times a month, but not every day, if that's an exaggeration. [00:41:16] Speaker A: Is that true, though? A few times a month seems, like, excessive. [00:41:19] Speaker C: Once a month at least. [00:41:21] Speaker A: Why? How does it pop into your head? Like, what do you think about. [00:41:25] Speaker C: You have to look at everything in the context of history, and the Roman Empire was an earth changing event. And I don't know. [00:41:36] Speaker A: I had a friend who tweeted that for women, our roman empire is actually the French Revolution. And I agree wholeheartedly. [00:41:42] Speaker C: Yeah, but you're just thinking about Mary Antoinette and her outfits. [00:41:46] Speaker A: Listen, they were amazing, okay? [00:41:50] Speaker C: We have to talk about the actual show. I'm sorry. [00:41:54] Speaker A: We can't keep talking about the French Revolution. Robes, Pierre Napoleon. [00:41:59] Speaker C: That was later. [00:42:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Guillotines. [00:42:07] Speaker C: Landlords, bread cave, bourgeoisie, brioche, baguette. [00:42:14] Speaker A: The storming of the Bastille. Bastille. Yeah. [00:42:19] Speaker C: Let's do a history podcast. [00:42:21] Speaker A: Yeah, we're switching now over the French Revolution podcast, but it's like dumb people's version of history, where we just list. [00:42:27] Speaker C: The word like bastille. That's a word I know. So we have 20 songs in this show, and if I'm not mistaken, some. I mean, it's a combo of two nights, but we're not hearing everything. [00:42:44] Speaker B: A few were left out. [00:42:45] Speaker A: Okay. Sin was played on March 20 eigth and was left out. Pilgrimage, which was a pre recorded intro, also played on March 20, eigth and left out. [00:42:56] Speaker C: I'm just thinking of reasons why I love pilgrimage. Shame that it's not really been played. I get why it's a pre recorded intro is not included and maybe not that important and just kind of filler. And you're making a blu ray, you want to tighten it up. [00:43:17] Speaker A: Then there were three tracks that weren't played at both dates. Every day is exactly the same. Even deeper. And suck were eliminated from every day. [00:43:26] Speaker C: Is exactly the same. It's with teeth. So you think it should have been on there. Maybe they weren't satisfied with the performance either night. Maybe suck was on and all that could have been. I'm thinking some of this. If it's a repeat from an all that could have been. For the most part, they're not doing it. Sin being one of those. What were the other ones you said? Frail and wretched. [00:43:55] Speaker A: Those weren't played at the shows. [00:43:57] Speaker C: Oh, well, they were played at some of these, and I get why. Well, they weren't at those. [00:44:02] Speaker A: And Pinion March 30, that was also a pre recorded intro and was not included. [00:44:08] Speaker C: Pre recorded. [00:44:09] Speaker A: And I'm relying on ni n wiki for this. Did I go out and look up the set lists and compare them? No. [00:44:17] Speaker C: I glanced at them. Pinion, we also heard at the beginning. And all that could have been also pre recorded. But fragile stuff. Like, if you look at the. I was just looking at the set list, fm average set list of the entire with teeth era. [00:44:34] Speaker A: How many fragile songs are in there? [00:44:38] Speaker C: More than beside you in time, because the frail and the wretched are on there. But it's fragile stuff. And I'm thinking that it was a decision that this is. We already had a fragile era concert movie. That stuff is going on the back burner. Unless it's the big comedown, which is a very welcome addition to this. It was noticeably missing from an all that could have been. And it's just a fucking barn burner. [00:45:12] Speaker A: It's so good banger. Yeah. [00:45:14] Speaker C: But that's the only fragile track we get at. All. [00:45:17] Speaker A: Right, let me double check. [00:45:22] Speaker C: We get somewhat damaged was on the special. [00:45:24] Speaker A: On the special features. Yeah, I think. Yeah, I'm pretty sure the big comedown is the only fragile. [00:45:33] Speaker C: I thank God it's on here. [00:45:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:38] Speaker C: They hadn't quite perfected that one in the fragility tours, but they sure did here. [00:45:46] Speaker A: All right, let's go. Let's dive in. [00:45:47] Speaker C: Okay. It starts with love is not enough. Always said it makes a great opener. And it starts with those what sound like pretty hate machine era glitchy noises. And as I said, I think freese is killing it on the drums right from the get go here. No offense to Jerome, but I prefer this version sounding way tighter than those rehearsals. And we start out the show behind the screen. We are behind the cheesecloth. That's what I called it, cheesecloth. [00:46:23] Speaker A: Okay. [00:46:23] Speaker C: Because that's what it kind of looks like. [00:46:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:25] Speaker C: And you can project imagery on it, but it's like, oh, we're kind of distance from the band here. They've got a little cloth in front of them. [00:46:36] Speaker A: I didn't have pre Covid era precautions. Trent knew it was coming. [00:46:40] Speaker C: You thought it was an artistic decision. He wanted that there so that the audience spittle couldn't get on the band. Do you think anyone was like, oh, no, are they going to have this between us the whole time? [00:46:54] Speaker A: I probably would have been a little bummed, but I pretty sure I would have known that that would come up based upon other performances they've had with screens and stuff. [00:47:05] Speaker C: The only other note I had is that Alessandra Cortini does kind of a noise solo at the end and he seems to be using. I'll talk about it more, I think, on burn, but some kind of little effects box that kind of maybe looks like a corg chaos pad. He's doing some wild stuff with it. Put more on that later. [00:47:35] Speaker A: All right, second track, you know what? You are right. Curtain comes up. [00:47:40] Speaker C: We're upping the rock factor here. [00:47:44] Speaker A: Screen comes up our cheesecloth, whatever, right? You want to call it? [00:47:47] Speaker C: And freeze goes ham. He does. Along with the double kicks. He's hitting the toms to kind of recreate the thing that Grohl did. Combination of Grohl's performance and sequenced elements is recreated really nicely with the kicks and toms. What else you like this one? It rocks pretty well. Good second track, just like on the album. It's the second track. Alessandro gets to do the. I'll have to drop the sound, but. Shit, shit, shit, shit. Delay. Do you notice that? [00:48:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:27] Speaker C: What? [00:48:28] Speaker A: No, I liked your recreation of it. Sorry. Your reenactment of the delay. [00:48:33] Speaker C: Yeah, I can't do it. I thought it was cute. He gets to do the shits. That sounds weird. The bridge. I kind of missed the key, the little key part. But instead there's like, for several of these songs, Alessandro is doing something that sounded like a theraman synth to me. But I think I figured it out. He's on the French Connection MIdi controller. And we talked about that. It's based on the Martinot. Martinot Radiohead. Right. So he's using the Radiohead controller to do kind of a sliding up and down theraman type sound. [00:49:22] Speaker A: Gotcha. [00:49:24] Speaker C: I don't think you get a good shot of it, but I'm pretty sure that's what it is because they did mention that they brought that. I think you talked about it last episode on the bonus feed. [00:49:36] Speaker A: We talked about the Martino like a different episode. [00:49:38] Speaker C: Yeah, I know, but I think you said last episode that the French Connection was brought on the tour. [00:49:45] Speaker A: I honestly forget everything I said. It's okay. [00:49:47] Speaker C: Trust me. [00:49:48] Speaker A: Sorry. [00:49:49] Speaker C: I hear French Connection or Martineau and my ears perk up. Do you have anything else? I guess you didn't write much. [00:49:56] Speaker A: I didn't write much. [00:49:57] Speaker C: I don't want it to just be. [00:49:58] Speaker A: I just kind of watched, like, Aaron north walking around a lot. It was cool. [00:50:02] Speaker C: Well, Aaron north and Jordy White are screaming the. You know it. You are lyrics at the end there. Oh, by the way, Trent has started the show with a guitar. And this is going to be a theme here. But he's playing guitar on both of these tracks so far. And he continues playing it on terrible lie. So this is obviously a favorite of mine. What'd you think of? [00:50:29] Speaker A: Hmm. My note says, knocks water. [00:50:35] Speaker C: At the end. At the end of terrible light. Now they're getting really mean aggressive. The song ends with Trent knocking the entire table of water bottles over. [00:50:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:49] Speaker C: Then some roadie's going to have to run out and bring all new water bottles. [00:50:52] Speaker A: All new water bottles. You know what? Just stop drinking out of plastic water bottles. Maybe Trent was mad because he knew all the nanoplastics that were inside of there. [00:50:59] Speaker C: He was like, fuck these. These are bad for the world nowadays. He's got, like, a coffee mug out there doing the old man. [00:51:08] Speaker A: The tea. I bet it's tea. Like Liz they kept bringing. [00:51:11] Speaker C: It's great for the voice. Great for the voice. But it's a meaner version of terrible lie. [00:51:17] Speaker A: It is meaner. I really enjoy, like, probably every time I hear terrible lie live, one of. [00:51:22] Speaker C: My favorite live tracks, and I didn't get to see it, which is a bummer in 2022. But, yeah, all of these are muscular versions of the songs we know. And everything's muscular. Obviously more muscular. Our front man is more muscular, and so is the music. That's the point I'm trying to make. So, yeah, still Trent rocking that guitar. I took time during this track to note his outfit is black t shirt, eyeliner, buzz cut, lots and lots of sweat. [00:52:02] Speaker A: And I think his jeans, I don't think they're leather. I think they're, like, coated, like the. [00:52:08] Speaker C: Coated with sweat, maybe like faux leather. [00:52:10] Speaker A: But maybe they are. [00:52:11] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:52:11] Speaker A: I can't really tell what they are. [00:52:12] Speaker C: Jeans. I didn't note the footwear. I didn't really get a good view of that. [00:52:16] Speaker A: I didn't either. No bozos. We're not the bozo era yet. [00:52:20] Speaker C: We are not in that era. He says that you fucking promised me a few times. But we do get the goddamn. Its a lot more on this one. I don't remember as many goddamn it. And all that could have been version of Terrible lie. By the way, this is one of the few crossover songs that's on both. [00:52:41] Speaker A: I almost pointed that out earlier, but I didn't. [00:52:43] Speaker C: No, it's good. I want to make note of the few that there are here. Yeah. This is always going to be a favorite of mine on any set list. The next one's, the line begins to blur. So our third with teeth song, my. [00:52:57] Speaker A: Note just says, I don't knows. I really like the. I don't. [00:53:03] Speaker C: Um, yeah, actually, I wrote that down, too, because Jordy is doing. I don't know. I don't know. And I said that they sound sick. [00:53:12] Speaker A: I thought it was Jordy and Aaron. It probably was both of them and maybe even Alessandro. I don't know. I can't remember. [00:53:18] Speaker C: It might have been visually, I think they were showing Jordy more. Jordy's got a really mean growl on a lot of this stuff. [00:53:31] Speaker B: Still. [00:53:31] Speaker C: Trent on guitar. Of course. It's actually going to be easier to note when he doesn't have it, so I'll do that instead. I think this is a really good one. [00:53:41] Speaker A: Yeah. I have a little star next to it, which means it's one of my favorite performances. [00:53:47] Speaker C: I maybe even enjoy it. More than on the album because it rocks harder. I think I had some weird Mandela effect thing where I remember something that may have never happened, where I don't know if it was the message board or something a long time ago, someone saying, oh, he had to go back and rerecord the line begins to blur. Vocals. [00:54:16] Speaker A: You said it was just for the Chorus. [00:54:18] Speaker C: Chorus only because he wasn't satisfied or something. And I'm probably talking bullshit right now. [00:54:26] Speaker A: I couldn't detect anything, but I'm not like a recording engineer. And I did play close attention and I looked to see. To me, it sounded live. [00:54:36] Speaker C: The chorus vocals are obviously sounding, production wise, sound way different than the verse. And they just sound really clean and produced. But I didn't really hear any evidence. [00:54:49] Speaker B: That they were re recorded later. [00:54:51] Speaker C: That's probably a blasphemous and shitty accusation. I'm just saying what my false memories told me. But, like, watching it visually, it looks like it matches the live performance. [00:55:06] Speaker A: That's what I was looking for to make sure it matched. And it did. [00:55:09] Speaker C: To me, it seems performed life, but just really produced. And obviously lots of. [00:55:15] Speaker A: But I think that the sets are just way tighter. [00:55:18] Speaker C: Yeah, they are. And plenty of post production was done on all of this, obviously, because they were making a movie out of it. It's just that it's like, really in your face. It's probably some layering that was done. Some of the vocal layers throughout the show are canned only a few times, maybe. Anyway, I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but it's a very interesting production technique. Okay, what's next? [00:55:49] Speaker A: March of the pigs. [00:55:50] Speaker C: First time Trent takes his guitar off so he can focus more on those vocals. [00:55:56] Speaker A: He should have been wearing his oxblood pants, but I don't think they'd fit anymore because he's too bust. [00:56:00] Speaker C: Yeah, they would not fit around the quads. [00:56:04] Speaker A: Been working on his glutes, not skipping leg day. [00:56:09] Speaker C: So this is another crossover with. And all that could have been. [00:56:14] Speaker A: I had a star by this one, so I must have really liked it. [00:56:17] Speaker C: It's really good. This one is different. This version is different. It starts with just the bass synth, and I think it's Alessandro playing it. Usually this song starts with the drums, right? But they tried it on this tour with starting out with a synth before the drums. Really. The energy is at a fever pitch by this time. [00:56:37] Speaker A: So good. Alessandro is climbing up the keyboard stand. He does this several times, and I'm just like, he must weigh, like, 90 pounds at one point. [00:56:48] Speaker C: We have two people on it. So this keyboard stand must be the strongest keyboard stand ever made because it just doesn't flinch when two people are stomping on the keys fully on it. [00:57:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. [00:57:05] Speaker C: It must be made for this. [00:57:06] Speaker A: Yeah. During this performance that Aaron north goes on, the crowd. He staged. [00:57:13] Speaker C: He staged dives. He's a maniac throughout this show. [00:57:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Honestly, it's kind of hard to pay attention to a lot of stuff of Aaron is getting wound up because you end up just watching him. [00:57:22] Speaker C: I think maybe Trent hired him so that Trent could take a break from going out there and being nuts and jumping into. Because Trent doesn't get himself into the crowd on this one like he did. And all that could have been. [00:57:37] Speaker A: He's like, that's a young person's game. I'm not doing it anymore. [00:57:40] Speaker C: I'm in my 40s. Almost. [00:57:42] Speaker A: He was 41. [00:57:43] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay. [00:57:44] Speaker A: Almost 41. [00:57:44] Speaker C: I think we got the audience clapping on the first chorus. Clapping along. Trent yells, come on, pigs. There. Come on, pigs. Clap with me. [00:57:54] Speaker A: Love when Trent makes me clap. I'll do it. I'll clap for anything that Trent. [00:57:59] Speaker C: You would, too. This is the first time I think we get some sightings of the Nokia camera phone or either that or the Motorola razor. [00:58:11] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think there was also maybe at one point you said, is that a sidekick? [00:58:15] Speaker C: Yeah, it's in my notes later on. But I see one sidekick and lots of flip phones. [00:58:20] Speaker A: Lots of flip phones. And what's amazing to me is people are trying to take pictures on these shitty things. [00:58:25] Speaker C: I know. It was like 50 x, 50 pixel. I used to do it, too. [00:58:31] Speaker A: Oh, everyone did. I mean, I still have pictures that were probably. I put on my MySpace profile maybe that were taken with my Nokia that were horrible, rough stuff. [00:58:40] Speaker C: But people were. [00:58:42] Speaker A: Imagine trying to. Well, it was a new thing. [00:58:44] Speaker C: This is a weird. [00:58:45] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Having your little tiny camera with you. And I don't think reznor ever has any rules like no cameras, stuff like that. Like a lot of artists do because people would take their little digital cameras in, too. I think Lisa said she has a lot of pictures and shows and no one ever took it away from her. But I've been at events like, I think I had a friend who went to a yeah, yeah. Show and he had to go back to his and put his camera up. They would not let him in. [00:59:11] Speaker C: The comment was that back in the aughts. [00:59:13] Speaker A: Yeah, it was like 2000. [00:59:15] Speaker C: Yeah. Those rules existed back then. Like, no photography. Now you can't. [00:59:20] Speaker A: Because I'm saying he had an actual camera. [00:59:22] Speaker C: The only rules I see now say no. [00:59:25] Speaker A: Professional. [00:59:26] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. So everyone obviously has a camera in their pocket, but you're just not allowed to bring your big rig with your ring light or whatever. Air north. Violently stage diving. Got that? And of course, we have all the pigs all lined up, ending like normal. [00:59:45] Speaker A: I have Trent's scream at the end. I don't know what that note means, but apparently I was impressed by something and I wrote it down. [00:59:52] Speaker C: That long held shriek. Okay, so we're at the most loud and violent, and then we take it down. We switch the mood drastically. [01:00:04] Speaker A: My first note for something I can never have. Lighters. [01:00:08] Speaker C: Yeah, this is a weird era because we have flip phones and we have lighters. [01:00:14] Speaker A: It's a combo of both. Now, have you ever taken a lighter out at a show? [01:00:18] Speaker C: I don't carry lighters ever in my life. [01:00:21] Speaker A: You were never a smoker? [01:00:22] Speaker C: No. Now, if you tried to take a lighter into a show, you would be tackled by a SWAT team. It's weird to see an era where that happened, but they were still doing it. [01:00:36] Speaker A: Yeah. You could probably even smoke inside that arena. Probably. I remember going to concerts at the shrine mosque, and I was a little underage 16 year old Jessica with a pack of Marlborough lights and a lighter and just. It was great because my parents weren't there and I could just smoke all I wanted, and no one took it away from me. [01:00:52] Speaker C: It was impossible for the kids. It was impossible to breathe. I remember an awful dive in Oklahoma City, or outside of it, where I had to go outside and gasp for air every so often. [01:01:09] Speaker A: So bad. [01:01:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:01:11] Speaker A: I remember being really mad whenever they passed the anti smoking laws because I was still a smoker. But now that I'm not a smoker. [01:01:18] Speaker C: It was so nasty in those days. [01:01:20] Speaker A: It really like, if I go into place where you can smoke, I'm like, oh, it stinks. [01:01:26] Speaker C: Okay. But something I can never have. We're slowing it down. Seeing some motorola razors and some lighters Trent's getting. He's delivering it very emotionally and well. Kind of surprised to hear this old chestnut being dusted. [01:01:44] Speaker A: Know, my notes after lighters include Alessandro's hair. I don't know why I wrote that down. [01:01:51] Speaker C: I'm not surprised you did. [01:01:55] Speaker A: Drums at end. I wrote, I don't know what I'm talking about here. And then I have a very poetic note that says, sweat sparkling like diamonds. [01:02:05] Speaker C: It really is. It truly is. All that light. The lighting on that sweat does look like diamonds. [01:02:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:12] Speaker C: So Josh Friese is doing the drums that I think had to have been originated by Chris Brenna. That come in toward the end that I really like. It's not on the record, but it's a cool addition. [01:02:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:27] Speaker C: And that sounds good. Of course, we get the. As we heard on still when Trent's voice goes up at the ends on the who. I used to bake a montem. That was my best performance ever. [01:02:44] Speaker A: That was really good. [01:02:46] Speaker C: Love that. So much better than the recorded version or the pretty hate machine version. Glad to hear that. And then by the end of something I can never have. I think it sounds awesome because kind of the full band comes in not till the end. Kind of like, hurt in that way. Okay, so what's next? [01:03:06] Speaker A: Closer. [01:03:07] Speaker C: Wait, I think I fucked up my numbering. Maybe there's only. [01:03:10] Speaker A: There's only 19. [01:03:11] Speaker C: Okay. Because I skipped from six to eight. [01:03:14] Speaker A: There's 19 tracks. Okay. Yeah. I was wondering where you got 20 from. And then I was like, maybe I forgot a track. [01:03:19] Speaker C: Why you didn't correct me. [01:03:20] Speaker A: So I was waiting to see. [01:03:21] Speaker C: Kind of shocked. There's only 19. Okay. Closer. Another, of course, a standard song. You're not always guaranteed closer like you are certain songs. But it was on and all that could have been. This one's a bit different, though. For one, Trent's on a platform, little platform above the rest of the band. And we're getting red. It's giving red imagery. [01:03:48] Speaker A: Does it remind you. And I talked about this. Was it songs of faith and devotion? The tour Depeche mode. They had like a platform and it was all red. At least for some songs. I can't remember. [01:04:00] Speaker C: There was a lot of imagery. Some of it was red. [01:04:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:03] Speaker C: I think for like, walking in my shoes, there was a lot of red. [01:04:06] Speaker A: I can't remember the exact songs. I'd have to rewatch it. But the rest of the band is on a platform while Dave is down below. And this is kind of reversed where Reznor's on a little tiny platform and the band is down on the stage. Except know freeze on the drum riser. But it kind of gave me those vibes a little. I'm not. [01:04:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:04:27] Speaker A: That they're exactly the same. They're not. But it did kind of give me those vibes because we have singer on. [01:04:33] Speaker C: A different level than the rest of the band. [01:04:35] Speaker A: Yeah. And also, I know Reznor saw them on that tour. [01:04:39] Speaker C: Yeah, of course he did. [01:04:41] Speaker A: Talks about it. [01:04:43] Speaker C: That's like a Depeche mode thing. Also, if you watch 101, the band is up on a riser. They never come down. And Dave is down on the main level, anyway. [01:04:57] Speaker A: It's just a lot more stylized. But the red lighting. [01:05:01] Speaker C: Yeah, closer. [01:05:03] Speaker A: And the songs of faith and devotion. Sorry. On that tour with the weird beaked. [01:05:10] Speaker C: Creatures walking around, I think at one. [01:05:12] Speaker A: Point, Alan Wilder is on a drum kit on the same level as Dave. [01:05:16] Speaker C: Yeah, that isn't an interesting little thing. But anyway, it's not Depeche mode time. I am noting the stagecraft for the show is nice details. We have the teeth. You know what the teeth are? Those things that are the jagged things that kind of look like teeth, pixelated teeth are behind them. They're kind of like screens. In addition to the cheesecloth screen that comes in front, we have the teeth behind. So those things are lighting up in different ways throughout the show. Closer has the only time bridge, which is not how they did it. And all that could have been, but cool to hear. [01:06:05] Speaker A: That's the way closer is performed when we saw them, too, at red. [01:06:09] Speaker C: Yeah, I really liked hearing that one. Really interesting musical change was that there is an Aaron north guitar part that replaces a synth part. Starts after the first chorus. I thought that was really cool and different. And then the guitar becomes low. Passed whenever the lyrics come back in. I liked that detail. Another detail I noticed just in general. Josh Friese, blonde. It's been a while since we saw a blonde person in this band. So much black hair. [01:06:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:50] Speaker C: And even then, the black haired drummer got replaced by blonde. And you know who he reminds me of in that sense? Chris Renna. [01:07:00] Speaker A: I know what to say. [01:07:01] Speaker C: He's trying to be just like Chris. [01:07:04] Speaker A: But Chris would later dye his hair black. [01:07:06] Speaker B: True. [01:07:07] Speaker C: Yeah, he changed it up a lot. Freeze is kicking ass in this, though, I will say. [01:07:13] Speaker A: All right. [01:07:14] Speaker C: Oh, next is one of my faves. [01:07:16] Speaker A: Burn. [01:07:17] Speaker C: Yeah, this one. I'll put a star by this one. [01:07:19] Speaker A: So good. [01:07:21] Speaker C: And just like when we saw them in 2022, Byrne was also one of my faves. Seeing them live then, it's just a kick ass live song. [01:07:31] Speaker A: I think Aaron north must have been fun to watch during this one because I wrote about him. [01:07:35] Speaker B: Okay. [01:07:35] Speaker C: Must have been. [01:07:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Aaron north, swinging guitar around. [01:07:38] Speaker C: He's swinging it like crazy. He's really active with the way he throws his damn guitar around. Byrne is a muscular rocker, keeping in line with the overall feel of this whole show. This is the one that starts with Alessandro freaking out on the little effects box, which may or may not be a chaos pad. And at first I was like, what. [01:08:05] Speaker B: The hell is this? [01:08:05] Speaker C: I'm just hearing weird filtered percussive things. And you kind of don't realize until the drums and stuff kicks in that it is, in fact, burn. [01:08:15] Speaker A: I knew it was burn. [01:08:16] Speaker C: You did? [01:08:17] Speaker A: I got burn vibes just from the. [01:08:19] Speaker C: Alessandro playing with the filters. Okay. There is another song later on that I was like, wait, what is this? Is this a cover? Is this something I've never heard? And I'm like, oh, it should have been so obvious what this was, but we'll get there. Yeah. Burn rules. Trent gets the guitar on. Trent. Guitar. [01:08:40] Speaker B: Watch. [01:08:40] Speaker C: He didn't have it during closer. He's got to be too focused on. [01:08:44] Speaker A: Being sexy on his platform. Don't want to fall off a platform. [01:08:47] Speaker C: No. And how goofy would it look if he was standing up on a platform playing a guitar like Eddie Van Halen or something? Burn. He's got to strap that guitar back on, though, because this is a guitar driven rocker for the chorus. And, yeah, the end gave up. Hang on. I just wanted to say Jordy's vocals are sounding Mansony from his, reminiscent of his days in that band. Like the I never was a part of you for that. He's doing the whispers and then the burn that thing. You got anything? [01:09:33] Speaker A: No. [01:09:34] Speaker C: Sorry. I feel like I'm doing too much talking. [01:09:37] Speaker A: This is how I feel most of the time on these episodes, so. I'm glad you are. [01:09:40] Speaker C: Well, I just got, like, I don't know, antichrist superstar vibes a little. [01:09:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:09:47] Speaker C: Okay. Gave up the red and blue Popo. The popo's here. You know how I know? Red and blue lights blinking, the blueberries and the cherries. That's right. The strobes damn near making me seizure out. But, you know, it's gave up time. We're color coding once again, and my brain likes it because I know it's coming. [01:10:09] Speaker A: My notes for this just said love, alessandro. Sm. I guess that means so much. I don't know why I wrote that. [01:10:18] Speaker C: You want to protect that small, small man. [01:10:25] Speaker A: He was just very much reminiscent of dudes I'd crushes on during this time. He had floppy black hair, a little bit of that black eyeliner. [01:10:35] Speaker C: That's all it takes. [01:10:36] Speaker A: His little military jacket. Love it. Looking good. [01:10:43] Speaker C: Alessandro. Speaking of him, does the little Cynthia solo on gave up. Reminiscent of the way Klauser played it. And I liked that little bit of nostalgia there. I wrote that Aaron north treats the guitar like a damn yo yo. And the strap is the string, and he's just slinging it around, slinging it up and down. So, yeah, gave up goes wild. Per usual. It is your standard gave up, but Aaron North's version. And then something a little more unexpected that kicks ass. Put a star next to this one. Eraser baby. [01:11:27] Speaker A: I think I have stars next to all three of these songs. Now, these songs are the ones where the screen comes back down, right. [01:11:33] Speaker C: The cheesecloth is back. [01:11:35] Speaker A: But this time the images that are projected have been compiled. I think it's by Andrea Jacobi. And these are images. They remind me a little bit of downward spiral hurt projection images, kind of. [01:11:53] Speaker C: Yeah, it starts with, like, microscopic viral imagery. [01:11:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:57] Speaker C: But then it gets bigger. [01:11:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Eventually it becomes more contemporary. A lot of war imagery. A lot of. [01:12:08] Speaker C: Yeah. I like the way it progressed because it started with this viral under a microscope imagery. And then we see, like, animals, including monkeys that are fighting when the lyrics come in. And then by the time it gets to the climactic lose me part, it's like war imagery, as he said, which I thought was pretty effective and dramatic. We're seeing explosions, tanks, weapons, soldiers, money and oil. [01:12:41] Speaker A: So this is the still things we're going to war for. [01:12:44] Speaker C: This is the Bush Iraq era. And that was very much reflected in the imagery we see here. [01:12:49] Speaker A: It could also be, honestly, the Biden era. It could never change. [01:12:53] Speaker C: War never changes. [01:12:54] Speaker B: As fallout says. [01:12:58] Speaker C: That's a joke for the gamers. [01:13:01] Speaker A: I'm a gamer now. [01:13:02] Speaker C: Did you know that you became a gamer because of hideo? [01:13:07] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm going to expand my repertoire of games from Mario Kart in Animal Crossing and Dr. Mario to include Death Stranding. Yeah, sure. [01:13:16] Speaker C: We're playing it together. [01:13:17] Speaker A: Oh, no. [01:13:18] Speaker C: You're going to have a lot of fun drinking monster energy and throwing your pee at ghosts. [01:13:25] Speaker A: Okay. This set, though, with the screen that comes down, it's right where it belongs. Version two. [01:13:32] Speaker C: And besides, not to be pedantic, but I'm going to call it version 1.5. [01:13:38] Speaker A: Okay. [01:13:38] Speaker C: It's not like version two, although I think this is my favorite version. I think this version of right where it belongs kicks ass. And it kicks the ass of the album version up and down the block, in my opinion. [01:13:52] Speaker A: How dare you. [01:13:53] Speaker C: I can really go for this version. [01:13:55] Speaker A: No, it's great. [01:13:56] Speaker C: Yeah, I really dig the changes. I think this is just. Maybe it's just me projecting, but Trent was like, I could probably improve upon that. [01:14:06] Speaker B: Let's do it this way, life. [01:14:07] Speaker C: Because it's wildly different from how it is on the record. [01:14:10] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it definitely is. [01:14:11] Speaker C: The cheesiness of the little synths and the shuffled piano is gone. [01:14:18] Speaker A: I like that. [01:14:19] Speaker C: Cheesy. I know. It has its place, but this version is so. I don't even know. [01:14:29] Speaker A: It's subtle, emotionally resonant. [01:14:32] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't know. I dig it. It's got acoustic guitar in it. [01:14:36] Speaker A: It's great. And it's also where we get the images of, like, it looks like a debutante ball. People dancing, and then images juxtaposed with then President Bush and the first lady probably dancing after a swearing in or after the inauguration or something. Right. And it's funny because it takes a few minutes for the crowd to realize what is going on, and then you just see a lot of middle fingers going up. [01:15:02] Speaker C: We got middle fingers to the president. [01:15:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:07] Speaker C: That was a nice moment. So more images of violence and war and also suburbia and more monkey imagery. The monkeys are back because we see disturbing monkey masks. [01:15:22] Speaker A: Listen, I do not like those monkey masks. They are as bad as pig people. [01:15:27] Speaker C: It was effective. I thought how disturbing that image was. [01:15:31] Speaker A: It looked like they were, like, poorly made planet of the apes masks or something. [01:15:36] Speaker C: Yeah, like Halloween. Like you buy at Spirit Halloween, and it's supposed to be Planet of the apes. [01:15:40] Speaker A: We have Planet of the apes at home. [01:15:41] Speaker C: Yeah, but I want to know where that came from. We also see the real life monkey versus a bunch of birds. Did you know monkeys fight birds in the wild? [01:15:52] Speaker A: I did not. [01:15:52] Speaker C: Well, they can jump in and grab their ass right out of a pond. And we see the video. Proof we got the Theraman sound is back with Alessandro playing the french connection, I imagine. And I think Aaron north is playing the acoustic. Him or Jordy? It's hard to tell behind the cheesecloth, but it's probably more likely north. Oh, I like the image of the grocery store on the. [01:16:23] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that one was a cool one, too. [01:16:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:16:25] Speaker A: When you're just kind of first person. [01:16:28] Speaker C: It'S like a moving down the aisle. [01:16:30] Speaker B: Aisle slowly. [01:16:31] Speaker C: Bright white lights out of nowhere, and it's like the surreal grocery store. [01:16:36] Speaker A: Yeah, it kind of reminded me of. Was it the Radiohead video for fake plastic trees? They're, like, in shopping carts. [01:16:42] Speaker C: Yes, I remember that. It is like that. Okay, so great little section here beside you in time. The title track. [01:16:52] Speaker A: That's right. So good. It's at this point where there's, like, a really cool effect in the screen when kind of at the. I guess it's the climax of the song when Reznor takes his mic stand. You see him holding it for a while. [01:17:05] Speaker C: Yeah, he's, like, readying. [01:17:06] Speaker A: Just, like, holding it. And then he just takes it and smashes it. Into the cloth and it gives this shatter effect, like glass shattering. [01:17:12] Speaker C: It looks like he breaks the screen and then that's when the screen goes away. [01:17:15] Speaker A: The screen goes up. [01:17:17] Speaker C: But yeah, that's at the end. There's great energy from the beginning of this track. People are clapping on those fast upbeats. We have even more of the french connection sound with Alessandro getting almost a solo of sorts. When that beat kicks in, the screens like the teeth and the imagery on the cloth is turning into what looks like a blizzard or almost like a blizzard of white pixels or something like fast snow. [01:17:49] Speaker A: Really cool. That's what I thought, too. I thought it had like a snow globe looking effect where it looks like. [01:17:52] Speaker C: They were in one or like tv static or something. But yeah, it's pretty cool when he picks up that mic stand, but he's not going to throw it at a bandmate's head. You see him wielding it. I bet if you. It's like. It's kind of scary. [01:18:09] Speaker B: Like if it could slip out of. [01:18:10] Speaker C: His fingers and hurl it through the screen and write at someone in the audience. Kind of looked that way. But he had it under control. [01:18:19] Speaker A: All those muscles, all those years of microphone wheel. Microphone stand tossing has made him quite an expert at controlling the microphone stand. Okay. [01:18:31] Speaker C: That's right. [01:18:32] Speaker A: But, yeah, another highlight, this three song mini set. I don't know what you call it. [01:18:40] Speaker C: Yeah, love it. It's a mid show. Kind of slowed down. Yeah, it's like in the middle of. And all that could have been when the screens come up and they do all that imagery. Yeah, it's really the same type of thing. The screen is up and the sense memory for me of the color green is so strong that I actually wrote reptile before I had to cross it out and write with teeth. Because as soon as all the lighting turned green, I wrote reptile immediately because that's just the way my brain works. But no, they screwed up and they made two songs green coated. I wrote this song as so reptile coated, but it's with teeth. Title track. [01:19:24] Speaker A: I got to tell you something. I got to confess something. This might be my favorite performance out of the whole show. [01:19:31] Speaker C: Oh, you're crazy. [01:19:32] Speaker A: Am I? [01:19:35] Speaker C: No, that's fine. But really, for a song. I didn't think you liked the song that much. [01:19:41] Speaker A: I don't, but I like this live performance of it. I think it's amazing. [01:19:45] Speaker C: It's really bombastic. [01:19:46] Speaker A: And mainly, I think, again, much like the album version, it's going to be the. [01:19:54] Speaker C: The bridge. And the bridge is way it's not like super duper quiet, obviously, like it is on the record. You can actually hear it. You hear him playing. Everything stops. He plays his piano and Aaron north does this weird solo with an octave pedal and then it kind of stops again. Then they go back to the song. It is a faster, more energetic version of the song, I think. [01:20:21] Speaker A: Yes. Also we get really good. If you're a Tambo Trent fan, we. [01:20:26] Speaker C: Do get a good tambo. [01:20:27] Speaker A: There's some good tambo on this, but I wrote that. Jesus Christ. [01:20:32] Speaker C: Like, it's cool. It's cool to hear him. [01:20:35] Speaker A: I think it's just the transition because it is such a heavy. The rest of the song is so heavy. And then you have just like on the album, that quiet transition to. I don't know, there's just something about it live that really, really works for me. [01:20:55] Speaker C: Trent's not on guitar on this one. I'll point out. Josh Friese is playing a difficult beat really well. I thought. He's great on it. What do you think about the way Trent delivers the chorus lyrics? Because I put that it seems like he's vomiting them out. Because it's like if you didn't like the. With teeth on the album. It's more aggressive here, but I feel. [01:21:23] Speaker A: Like it works live more than it does on the album. I don't know. I can't quite describe it. I can't put it into words. But the live version of this works for me. Whereas the. Or at least this version on beside you in time works for me 1000 times better than the album version. [01:21:49] Speaker C: I guess in some ways I might like this better than the album version of the track. But still not my favorite on this concert. [01:21:57] Speaker A: I can't wait to hear what your favorite is. [01:22:00] Speaker C: I don't even know if I know. [01:22:03] Speaker A: Next wish. [01:22:05] Speaker C: Trent puts his guitar back on. Shall rock out. [01:22:11] Speaker A: I wrote more smoke and strobes, please. [01:22:14] Speaker C: Strobes. And what color lights do we get on wish? They're white. That's the way Wish has been coded. Wish since always. White lights on wish. Josh Friese really kills the beat on this one. And fuck. Yeah, it's a wish. What do you want? [01:22:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I have a little starbite. I love wish. [01:22:35] Speaker C: Yeah, it's another one. We hear it every show. Pretty much. Yeah, freeze kills it. He kills the double kicks at the end too. [01:22:46] Speaker A: Can you explain to me why during only the next song I wrote Gerard Way? Question mark. Question mark. And then made the little emoji man with the crying eyes? [01:22:56] Speaker C: I don't know. [01:22:57] Speaker A: Is it like the Alessandro puppy dog eyes? Yes. [01:23:00] Speaker C: For some reason you think he looks. [01:23:01] Speaker A: Like Gerard way he did here. [01:23:04] Speaker C: Okay. [01:23:04] Speaker A: There's a lot of resemblance. [01:23:07] Speaker C: This is the one where it starts with an intro that is not on the album. I didn't recognize what it was. It's a cool little bass and guitar. Yeah, it's like. It's like only. But rock band version. I don't know how else to put it. With a little bit of synth by Alessandro, I liked. Now I know why. Did you notice that he adds a lot more? I said that it needs a tambourine in it. But Trent was too busy holding his guitar, so he couldn't. The imagery is like a lot of pixely art projected onto all their faces. He says, your fucking world, that is. He adds an extra fuck there. [01:24:04] Speaker A: Got to add the fuck. [01:24:05] Speaker C: You know? He likes to do that. [01:24:07] Speaker A: I want bang for my buck. I want a lot of fucks in there. [01:24:12] Speaker C: More fucks for your buck. That's what you get when you buy a ticket. [01:24:17] Speaker A: That's right. Big comedown. Okay, I have a. [01:24:22] Speaker C: Put a star by that. [01:24:23] Speaker A: Star by that. Yeah, I love the big comedown. And my only note was Trent's mic stand work is he's. [01:24:31] Speaker C: Yeah, he's really doing something with that mic stand. And he can't have a guitar on this one because he has to focus on vocal convulsions and utterances and just really giving it all to that mic stand. But, like, at the bridge vocals and the end, it's like he's having convulsions or something. Yeah, he's really doing something and making noises that aren't even. That are barely human. They're not words, but it looks like he's about to. About to bust, about to explode. I don't know. I love it. It's great. The big comedown. Damn. This was also a favorite of mine in 2022. Not a lot changed other than the guitarist, but north goes crazy on this guitar part. And I think they really got this one in line where they hadn't when. [01:25:42] Speaker B: They tried it a little bit, I. [01:25:43] Speaker C: Think, on fragility 1.0 and couldn't make it work. Oh, Alessandro gets to play auxiliary guitar on this one. [01:25:51] Speaker A: Do you notice? Yeah, I did. [01:25:52] Speaker C: There's that extra guitar part we don't have, Trent, so Alessandro had to pick up the strings. But, yeah, a late show banger for sure. [01:26:04] Speaker A: And then we bring it down. [01:26:06] Speaker C: Bring it way, way down to hurt. [01:26:08] Speaker A: Also a star by this one. [01:26:11] Speaker C: Yeah, it's a great hurt. [01:26:12] Speaker A: It really is. A great performance. [01:26:14] Speaker C: A little weird that it's not the final track. It's not the final thing we hear, but I guess that's more recent. It was the final thing on and all that could have been final thing in 2022 shows and many, many other shows. But it's a pre encore ender here and it's just Trenton piano by himself until the final chorus. [01:26:42] Speaker A: I wrote solo res until end. [01:26:46] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. [01:26:47] Speaker A: And of course, a lovely crowd sing along. [01:26:52] Speaker C: A lot of crowd shots in this part as well. [01:26:56] Speaker A: This is the triple H segment of the right. [01:27:00] Speaker C: Triple H, but in a different order than maybe you're used to. Maybe. This is where I saw in all the crowd shots a glow stick. [01:27:09] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:27:10] Speaker C: You wrote glow stick and flip phones and a sidekick. This is where I saw the sidekick. But it sounds great. And those final three chords sound great. And then we break for the encore. [01:27:23] Speaker A: All right, and what's on the encore? [01:27:25] Speaker C: The hand that feeds, baby. [01:27:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:27:27] Speaker C: You thought they weren't going to play the hit radio single. The hand that feeds. It rocks. What do you think? [01:27:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I have an asterisk by it, but I didn't take any notes, so I don't know what I was. That's really weird. I just feel like the hand that feeds and had, like, a hole had very chaotic feel that I liked a lot. [01:27:48] Speaker C: Yeah. Super big stadium rock feel to both of them as well. [01:27:54] Speaker A: Head like a hole gave us the Aaron north drum cam is what I called it. I think that's when you get the. [01:27:59] Speaker C: We get, like, from Josh Friese's pov. [01:28:02] Speaker A: Yeah, like a jump scare almost. [01:28:03] Speaker C: Aaron north is on the kick drum. That's always scary for a drummer. It's like, are you going to break my kick drum? But no, he uses it as, like a springboard to jump off of. [01:28:16] Speaker A: And also had, like a whole. Also had Alessandro and Aaron jumping on the keyboards. [01:28:21] Speaker B: Right. [01:28:21] Speaker C: They both get on it. I also saw Alessandro spit on this one. Alessandro, innocent little boy, hawks alugie on stage. [01:28:30] Speaker A: No. Can't believe it. [01:28:33] Speaker C: Aaron north is doing a lot of things to his guitar cabinet, but before destroying it, he's doing a handstand on it. Just fucking nuts. They hired this guy to be an acrobat, basically. I do like that you hear prominently when they jump on that keyboard. You hear it? [01:28:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:28:53] Speaker C: You hear just all the keys being hit at the same time being mashed. And then at the end, I wrote that Aaron north assaults his speaker cabinet, destroying it and then tossing it off the stage entirely. Probably falling on a security guy. [01:29:12] Speaker A: Yeah, it definitely fell on a security. Not in the crowd, just in the security area. He didn't hurt any fans. [01:29:18] Speaker C: And this is another song that, like, wish is also flashing white light coded and has remained that way through the years. And that's how the show ends. With the destruction of a guitar cab, blinding white lights and screams. But yeah, pretty kick ass version of head like a hole. That's it, baby. [01:29:44] Speaker A: Yeah. I guess my highlights for this, if we're going to talk about our favorites, march of the pigs was one burn, the three track little intermission set of eraser right where it belongs and beside you in time. And then with teeth. [01:30:02] Speaker C: Surprisingly, that is a shocker for me. [01:30:05] Speaker A: Wish, hurt and hand that feeds. Oh, big comedown. Did I say that big comedown is on there too? [01:30:13] Speaker C: Big come down and burn were two faves for me. I feel bad, like, none of okay, right where it belongs. Maybe the only with teeth track on here that is among my top tier. Besides you in time is really good. [01:30:34] Speaker A: It's kind of weird. So burn was one of yours and what was the other one? [01:30:37] Speaker C: And big comedown and eraser. So it's the older ones, but the ones that are maybe slightly deeper cuts that really stand out to me as faves. I have some fun stats. Just a couple fun stats. Okay, I wrote that. There are 20 songs. I'm so dumb. Okay, songs from with teeth. There were eight songs from with teeth by my count, so eight out of 19. And songs where Trent plays guitar. Twelve out of 19. A shockingly high percentage rate. [01:31:15] Speaker A: How many tambos did we get? [01:31:17] Speaker C: We only got like two. [01:31:19] Speaker A: There's with teeth tambo. And I thought I left little marks whenever I saw taboo. [01:31:25] Speaker C: If we had every day is exactly the same. We might have had some more tambo. But yeah, I don't remember seeing any other tambo. [01:31:34] Speaker A: Not enough tambo. [01:31:35] Speaker C: Needed more of that. Should have had some on only, but. Okay, so that was our first reactions to seeing besides you in time. I like it. I think it's great. [01:31:50] Speaker A: Think it's great. Maybe sacrilegious. I liked it more than. And all that could have been. [01:31:55] Speaker C: I have a nostalgic attachment or whatever to that one. But yeah, on a technical level, in many ways, I think it's better than that. But that one has so many fragile songs that I'm partial to. Yeah, but this is also a different band, a very different performance from Trent, who's in a totally different state of mind. It's hard to compare the two for me. I like that they're so different. I don't want two concert movies that are the same, more muscular in every way, across the board. [01:32:32] Speaker A: I just think that maybe if we'd watched this before we actually talked about with teeth, I might have different perspectives about some of the songs. But I think that the live versions of with teeth songs work better for me than the album, almost. [01:32:50] Speaker C: I think for the most part, that's true. Yeah. And the ones they picked are really showcasing that. Like, if they picked all the love in the world, I think it'd be a different story. That one. I think they probably had trouble pulling off in rehearsals, and that's why they waited so long to actually play it live. Same with sunspots. I don't know why they couldn't make that one work. It seems like a straightforward rocker, but who knows? [01:33:21] Speaker A: Okay, I just want to read a little bit from Resner about audience reaction during this tour. He said, the fact that I look in the crowd and I see teenage fans along with older fans that have been with me from the beginning, that feels great. I'm not trying to sound humbled, but when I came back, I didn't know how much time passed and how much things are different culturally than they were in the 90s. It's been a pleasant reception, and I'm grateful for that. I felt like Nine Inch Nails got much bigger than I ever dreamed it could get. And I told myself that the reason that happened was that at its core, it was honest and true. And luckily, it happened to strike a nerve with people. If I ever pandered to that, to the dollar or commercial sales, not listening to what the artist in me has to say, I think that's just death. Throughout my career, throughout getting sick and disappearing for a while, I can sleep at night feeling like I've always done what I really thought was the best I can do. Like it or hate it, but it never was for the wrong reasons. [01:34:16] Speaker C: All right. [01:34:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:34:19] Speaker C: Do you want to read an one star Amazon review? Get a different perspective on. [01:34:26] Speaker A: See. Let's hear from the haters. Hold on. I found one that was really good and hilarious. The person's gripes were really funny, but let me find it. By the way, you can get this for 1797 on Blu ray on Amazon right now. [01:34:45] Speaker C: Ooh. [01:34:47] Speaker A: Go get it. [01:34:48] Speaker C: I almost want the dvd just for the package. [01:34:54] Speaker A: Okay, so the actual rating on Amazon is 4.8 out of five. So very good. [01:35:00] Speaker C: Pretty good. [01:35:00] Speaker A: The IMDb rating is 8.9 out of ten. But let's look at the one star review. I think there's a couple that are. Sometimes people just like to review the manufacturing here. Morby said first copy I got was scratched and skip second copy after hassle returning. It didn't even have the disc in the box. It was sealed. So it must be a manufacturing issue. Highly disappointed to say the list. That's what he says. [01:35:27] Speaker C: Damn. [01:35:29] Speaker A: On good side, Amazon refunded me without hesitation. [01:35:32] Speaker C: Well, okay. Yeah. Not a review of the content so much. [01:35:37] Speaker A: Here's one from Jay Tayo. They wrote boring. [01:35:42] Speaker C: What? They were bored? [01:35:45] Speaker A: Yeah. If you have never, ever seen nin live, then this would be entertaining. However, I have. Don't get me wrong, it's a great show, but when I lay down money for a dvd, I want more than what I've already paid for when I saw the live show. [01:35:58] Speaker C: Does he want the band to leap out of the screen and like, here's. [01:36:01] Speaker A: What he wants, he'll tell you. I mean, where is the behind the scenes? Look at Trent Reznor and all of his overinflated, ego fuelled shenanigans? [01:36:07] Speaker C: Oh, shut. Jesus Christ. [01:36:09] Speaker A: This one goes in the recycling bin. Don't waste the money. Hell, go buy a corn or slipknot dvd. Even though musically these guys aren't on the same level, they provide much more backstage behind the scenes entertainment. [01:36:22] Speaker C: Not everything needs that, and that's usually so corny. [01:36:25] Speaker A: Here's a one star from Devin in Canada. They said this is a pirate blu ray. [01:36:31] Speaker C: Amazon sent them the pirated copy. Nice. [01:36:33] Speaker A: I think there was one in the three star range that was really okay. Yeah. So this one is a three star review from Stillbroker and it's kind of long, but I'm going to read it. Their gripes are kind of funny to me. [01:36:49] Speaker C: Okay. [01:36:49] Speaker A: I am not a rabid nine inch Nails fan. Or I suppose I would have nothing but the highest accolades for the live performance DVD beside you in time. But the reality of it is that the band has lost its edge. It is nothing fatal, but the intensity and compassion that the band put on stage for us with and all that could have been has clearly disappeared. Okay, I don't see that. But whatever. This is inevitable. Decadence does not escape even its most ardent critics. And Trent Reznor is no exception. If you are expecting something better or equal to their previous live concert dvd, then there are some things you should consider before purchasing or viewing beside you in time. One, the band has changed its look then no longer have. I think they meant they. They no longer have the gothic and post apocalyptic stage appearance. [01:37:35] Speaker C: Let's talk about Cornstarch. We didn't talk about Cornstarch. This show doesn't have it. [01:37:38] Speaker A: Not one cornstarch. [01:37:39] Speaker C: And this guy's pissed. [01:37:40] Speaker A: Maybe that's why Trent is so sweaty. Their look is now more mainstream and preppy. I don't see Trent out there wearing abercrombie, but okay, maybe he's talking about the button down sleeveless shirt. Like, what is preppy? [01:37:56] Speaker C: Maybe he's talking about Aaron north jacket that's not. Or Alessandro's jacket that's not preppy. I don't think this person knows what that word means. [01:38:04] Speaker A: Anyway. Two, Reznor injects politics into the show, which, in my opinion, is always an act of populist desperation by an artist. [01:38:12] Speaker C: No, I get it now. This is a George W. Bush lover. That's all they needed to say. But they won't come out and say. [01:38:19] Speaker A: That, like most people, you don't have to have ESP to figure out that these guys are not republican. But on the other hand, I don't need it spelled out for me on a giant screen. Yeah, definitely. [01:38:30] Speaker C: I prefer republican bands like Creed, Stained. [01:38:37] Speaker A: Stained kid rock, stained kid rock, buck cherry. I don't know their policy. [01:38:44] Speaker C: I don't know either. I'm just guessing. [01:38:47] Speaker A: Three, the band's performance leans, by the way, lean is spent as spelled L-I-E-N-S which is not the correct lean. Anyway, the band performance leans heavily on techno. [01:38:58] Speaker C: Does it? Does it? Less than ever on this. [01:39:02] Speaker A: In the previous live performance dvd, this was not needed. The band kicked ass and needed nothing but their instruments and energy. [01:39:07] Speaker C: What is he even talking about? [01:39:10] Speaker A: To fill in the gaps with visuals and other effects. But I feel that it fails to make up for their lack of passion. Four. [01:39:15] Speaker C: The fuck? [01:39:16] Speaker A: The new material put out and performed on the dvd is not of the same high quality other than song number two. You know what you are? You are not missing anything. Everything seems to sound the same and does not really carry or have any of its own identity. I don't know what this person is on. [01:39:29] Speaker C: I don't know. [01:39:30] Speaker A: This one is my favorite. Five. The band plays three ballads on this dvd. I don't think more than one per life performance is necessary. [01:39:38] Speaker C: God, this guy's such a nerd. [01:39:40] Speaker A: So I need to figure out the three ballads are ballad, right where it belongs. [01:39:44] Speaker C: Something I can never have. [01:39:45] Speaker A: Oh, something I can never have. Pray about that. [01:39:47] Speaker C: Sorry. [01:39:48] Speaker B: Ballads. [01:39:50] Speaker A: There are some other details, such as camera angle, that lower the quality of this dvd. But mainly I'm just trying to warn anyone, such as myself, who may be expecting something that isn't there. If you are not a total rabid fan and you would know the difference between a great and mediocre performance, then you may just want to pretend that the band died in a plane crash and all we have to remember them by is and all that could have been fuck off. So this is someone who just hates. [01:40:14] Speaker C: With someone who and who possibly hates the band probably hates Trent Reznor. Not sure why you're still clinging on to a fandom. Move on and listen to a different band. It's my advice. My advice to this guy in 2007. Shame on you. [01:40:30] Speaker A: This person just says not like. And all that could have been no. [01:40:35] Speaker C: It'S not like it. [01:40:36] Speaker A: This dvd is good. In fact, I graded it a bit low to counter the other five star reviews. What? That's dumb. [01:40:42] Speaker C: Fuck off. [01:40:42] Speaker A: If you're a fan of nin, you'll like it. If you've seen and all that could have been, you'd be able to tell that that dvd is better. The truth is, Nin's music is by no means cheerful during the filming of and all that could have been. Trent Reznor was not in good form. He was fighting off personal troubles as most of his work and life has definitely shown in his moments of turmoil. His turmoil shows in his music very passionately. With this dvd, Reznor is in good shape and healthy, which seems to make him a bit unable to connect to the anger which he himself brought into the songs in the past. Bro, it's just a bit off. Trent being healthy is great. I'm a huge fan. I would never want him to suffer. But being as he is, it feels like he isn't really connecting to the songs. Did he watch a different performance than me? [01:41:23] Speaker C: He is in a different shape, obviously, but he seems as energetic as ever. [01:41:29] Speaker A: While this performance is awesome and the tour was even better, I went to a few shows. This recording isn't as good as and all that could have been, and the audio is even worse than being at those shows. Okay, live in person standing there watching the show was 100% flawless. This dvd just seems to not quite capture the fill of the show. So alone, this dvd is very good. You still gave it three stars. But when it comes to the music and all that could have been, DVD is just a lot better. Also, a lot is two separate words. If you want to get an awesome Ninja DVD, get and all. If you're a big fan by both, both are worth the money. [01:42:02] Speaker C: All right, enough of these dorks. [01:42:05] Speaker A: Most of these people are just like not as good as. And all that could have been. That's what most of these are. [01:42:11] Speaker C: A weird take. I mean, I have nostalgia for it too, but I don't know, it's hard to compare them. [01:42:18] Speaker A: Man, this person. I'm not going to read this one. This one is so long. [01:42:23] Speaker C: But anyway, no time. [01:42:24] Speaker A: Fun. Fun to read those Amazon reviews. [01:42:28] Speaker C: Fun. Maddening. Insane. [01:42:31] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's it. That's the last halo for the wisdith era. [01:42:38] Speaker C: Oh my God. [01:42:39] Speaker A: We did it. [01:42:40] Speaker C: I can't believe it. [01:42:41] Speaker A: This might be my favorite halo for the era. I'll have to think about that one, though. [01:42:46] Speaker B: It's up there. [01:42:47] Speaker C: It's up there. [01:42:48] Speaker A: Don't quote me on it. [01:42:49] Speaker C: I mean, it's a great concert film. What can I say? Yeah, it's up there. [01:42:53] Speaker A: It's really good. But I just want to do a quick coming up on so we can. [01:43:01] Speaker C: What's next? [01:43:02] Speaker A: Let you know what's coming up. So there is going to be another bonus app. I've called it. Breaking up is hard to do. It's going to be about Jerome, Dylan, John, Mallm and leaving New Orleans. I almost said leaving Las Vegas, but luckily I caught myself. [01:43:22] Speaker C: He broke up with a city. [01:43:24] Speaker A: Broke up with a city. [01:43:27] Speaker C: I think I have to research that one now. Am I supposed to lead that one? [01:43:31] Speaker A: You said you would take over and lead more. But I can. [01:43:34] Speaker C: I'm going to have to start doing my research. Okay. Maybe you can help. If you want to hear me lead an episode, get behind that paywall. [01:43:43] Speaker A: Then we will have one more episode for the with teeth era. That's going to be the with teeth wrap up. So we'll try to cover things that maybe we missed or skimmed over. And we'll also have a nailed bag. So if you want to send any questions or thoughts that you have about anything from the with teeth era, now is the time. [01:43:58] Speaker C: Or if we missed anything from that era that you wanted us to talk about, this is your last chance. So email [email protected], yes. [01:44:06] Speaker A: Then after that, fingers crossed that there is no natural disaster that calls my hero friend away. But we'll have a fashion episode. That'll be our last episode for this era. [01:44:21] Speaker C: Another fashion with Jess and Katie. And those are great episodes. And I don't have to do, you don't. [01:44:27] Speaker A: You don't have to do anything. So that's what's coming up in your feeds, in your bonus feeds and in your main feeds. Then we're going to take a little break in February just to start our. [01:44:40] Speaker C: Year zero work on our alternate reality game. [01:44:43] Speaker A: And we're going to come back in March with Patreon bonus episodes. So we do have some patron requests that we're going to do in March, and then we have a very special bonus episode. And I'll talk more about that on the nailed bag episode. Okay, so that's what's coming up. [01:45:11] Speaker C: If you want twice the amount of podcasts to listen to, patreon.com. Nailed pod. All of our stuff [email protected]. We are at nailed pod on the socials. Insta X. I guess TikTok even. [01:45:33] Speaker A: Do tweets have a name now, or do people still call them tweets X's? Are they really X's? [01:45:37] Speaker C: No, they're still called tweets. [01:45:39] Speaker A: People call them Elon's now. [01:45:42] Speaker C: Musks. I don't look at that site very much, but we're on there. We're even on TikTok. We don't have very many followers or many posts. And a discord for subscribers. That's really fun. And a merch store. Neilpod.com. Okay. Anything else, Jeff? [01:46:04] Speaker A: I think that's it. [01:46:05] Speaker C: All right. Thanks for continuing to go on this journey with you. With us. [01:46:11] Speaker A: Us? Yeah. [01:46:13] Speaker C: I'm losing my ability to speak, so I better log off. Sign off, whatever. Thanks, everyone. That's been our episode for this week. And didn't that make you feel better?