Halo 24 - Year Zero - Survivalism (again)

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[00:01:15] Speaker B: This is a warning from the Bureau of Podcasts. We can no longer stop this podcast from going live, but we can try to dissuade you from listening. You are now entering a political rant zone. This episode is about to get very politically opinionated. Seriously, turn back now. They barely even talk about the song. It's mostly tangents. Satisfaction with this episode is not guaranteed. You have been warned. [00:02:18] Speaker C: Come on down. It's nailed a song by song. Journey through the world of Year Zero. I'm Blake. [00:02:24] Speaker D: I'm Jessica. [00:02:25] Speaker C: And we're here to talk survivalism again. Again. Survivalism Part 2. [00:02:33] Speaker D: You'd think that we wouldn't have much to talk about, but let me tell you, we do. [00:02:37] Speaker C: We almost didn't do one of these. Or I think I said originally, why would we do it again? We already did that song. [00:02:45] Speaker D: And I said, shut up. We're gonna do it. [00:02:48] Speaker C: We haven't done a song twice. Like. Well, we kind of have. Anyway, it doesn't matter. There's more stuff to talk about, more fun things to play, and maybe some very significant revelations about Year Zero. Maybe discoveries. Or maybe you already knew it. [00:03:07] Speaker D: Yeah, maybe you're smart and not a dumb dumb like me and you already knew this and you've been waiting for me to. [00:03:12] Speaker C: Nope, I already knew it all. [00:03:14] Speaker D: I messaged you and you said I did not know this, so you're a liar. But we'll get to that later. [00:03:20] Speaker C: But first, should we go ahead and do some nine inch news? [00:03:23] Speaker D: Yes. [00:03:24] Speaker E: So everything is in the news today. [00:03:28] Speaker C: Kind of a big deal. Piece of news. And some smaller ones. What do you have first? [00:03:35] Speaker D: Well, my first note on my outline is, dudes lost The Grammy to Zimmer. [00:03:41] Speaker C: Hans Zimmer, once again, like he needs more accolades for June Part 2. [00:03:48] Speaker D: I don't even remember the score. [00:03:49] Speaker C: It was a lot of vocalizing in a vaguely ethnic way. And yeah, they lost. Or it was Challengers up against it. Right. [00:04:00] Speaker D: Challengers. And wasn't. Maybe it was Atticus on his own. Was that for a Grammy or was that a. That might have been the Golden Globes. And I just don't remember. [00:04:10] Speaker C: Confused. Yeah, maybe. Maybe I'm also thinking of Oscars anyway. [00:04:15] Speaker D: No Oscars. They were not. Well, I don't think Atticus wouldn't have been nominated because that was a TV show, so that was not an Oscar thing. But Challengers was snubbed at the Oscars too, by the way. [00:04:25] Speaker C: Yeah, big challenger snubs all around. Clearly Challengers the better score. But Zimmer got it. I wonder how many score awards Zimmer even has. I know he has a trillion scores, but as far as awards, I don't know. Moving on. I think the last time we did Nine Inch News, we talked about maybe there was going to be a tour that accidentally got leaked. And now we know for sure there is a tour is happening. We don't know why. [00:04:56] Speaker D: Album. [00:04:58] Speaker C: We are hoping for an album, but we know nothing about that yet. [00:05:01] Speaker D: Downward Spiral anniversary tour, one year late. [00:05:04] Speaker C: I thought that's what it was gonna be. And it's called Peel It Back. So, like, it seems like that's what it is. All we have are dates and we have ticket sales. [00:05:18] Speaker D: Sold out, I believe. How many of that was bought by Bots and are now being resold? I couldn't find it. [00:05:23] Speaker C: When Bots do it all, everything sells out. Yeah, it's an insider scam with Ticketmaster. [00:05:30] Speaker D: We also know kind of the arrangement of like, a stage setup. Right. Where there's a smaller stage that's set up. So in Discord, I've been calling that the Magic Mike Reznor stage. Cause I think we're in for a treat. [00:05:43] Speaker C: We won't say why. We won't say why. Is he gonna, like, go through the floor and pop up like Billy did? Yeah, it's so. I don't know what's going on with this one's gonna be different, but we don't know why or how. I wish we knew more. [00:05:58] Speaker D: Yeah. And I know, as per usual, when any big tour is announced, there was a lot of, like, anxiety, ticket anxiety, because it's almost impossible to get tickets to things anymore if it's a big, huge band. Like on this side. Yeah. [00:06:13] Speaker C: Because of Ticketmaster. [00:06:14] Speaker D: Exactly. So I know there were some issues with getting t. It's. It was rolled out really quickly and they've already pre released some tour merch that is pretty lackluster. So. [00:06:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't know of anyone who. Who really was into that tour merch that they put out. [00:06:32] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:06:33] Speaker C: Like a hoodie and a shirt. [00:06:35] Speaker D: And the ticket prices were probably way higher than most people expected them to be. Yeah, one of that. One of the reasons is arena shows are just expensive. You got a huge crew, you've got, you know, you gotta pay your crew. I don't know what the stage design is gonna be, but, you know, that kind of stuff is expensive. Yeah. [00:06:54] Speaker C: Insanely expensive. [00:06:55] Speaker D: So, I mean, arena shows are just expensive anyway. I think we should just be grateful that they didn't turn on dynamic pricing, which would have made those tickets insanely expensive. [00:07:04] Speaker C: That's the only good thing about this ticket buying experience was no dynamic. [00:07:09] Speaker D: Yeah. And I told myself that I would just sign on and if I could get good seats or decent seats, then I would do it. And if not, I'm not gonna buy from a reseller. I'm not doing that shit anymore. Fuck that. So I think we all should say fuck that, by the way. [00:07:25] Speaker C: Yeah. We should not participate in. [00:07:27] Speaker D: No, I don't care how much you love the band, just say fuck it. No, but easy for me to say anyway. But I actually, when I signed on, this has never happened in the history of me buying tickets. I was like 1,500 in line and I was like, hol. Usually I'm like 30,000, 20,000. And I'm like, oh, I'm not gonna get shit. So I stayed on and I got tickets. So we'll see. Hopefully we'll see some of you in St. Paul. [00:07:56] Speaker C: Yep. St. Paul, Minnesota is where we will be. The Target Center. [00:08:03] Speaker D: No, it's the Excel Center. I think it's different. Target is Minneapolis. [00:08:08] Speaker C: Oh, right, right. Yeah, the twin arenas, as they say. So I don't. I don't know what to expect. I. I'm looking forward to it. Just seeing people, seeing the band again. [00:08:20] Speaker D: It'll be weird to see them in an arena. I mean, it's not like I've seen them like in a bunch of different locations. [00:08:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:27] Speaker D: But I just never thought of them as an arena band. I mean, I know they have played them before for various events and things like that, but in a lot of, you know, outdoor amphitheaters and things like that. But this is a whole arena tour. So, yeah. [00:08:41] Speaker C: And the whole thing sold out, as. [00:08:43] Speaker D: Far as I know. I mean, I'm sure you can buy tickets through resellers. [00:08:46] Speaker C: Well, yeah, that's what I meant. [00:08:47] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:08:48] Speaker C: We don't know who the band members will be. [00:08:51] Speaker D: Don't know. Opening acts. [00:08:53] Speaker C: Yeah. No openers. Nobody tells you openers these days anymore until the last minute, though. So that's not shocking. [00:09:00] Speaker D: Yeah. But it kind of sucks because I'm. [00:09:01] Speaker C: Like, it does suck. It'd be cool to know. [00:09:03] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:09:03] Speaker C: So I get into the band, have ample time. We'll probably have, like a week to look into the band, whoever's opening. [00:09:09] Speaker D: Yeah. Hopefully it'll be just like a band that they. Or a band that we're already familiar with. I mean, that's kind of in that world. [00:09:15] Speaker C: Okay. So tour. That's insane news. More listeners might be coming our way. Because that's what happened last time they toured. There was an influx of people, so I hope so. What else? [00:09:28] Speaker D: That's all I have for 9 inch news. Do you have anything else you want to add? [00:09:32] Speaker C: Nope. I guess that's it for Nine Inch News. Let's get into it. [00:09:44] Speaker D: So before we start going into survivalism, a little bit of a I don't know. Disclaimer here. This album is very political, and we're going to talk about politics and we're going to talk about history, and we're going to talk about maybe things that people aren't comfortable with or don't agree with us on, and that's fine. [00:10:04] Speaker C: Let me just add. Podcasts are, by definition a collection of the host's opinions. It's a stream of our opinions coming out the microphone. So just keep that in mind. No one's obligated to agree. No one's obligated to listen. [00:10:26] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:10:27] Speaker C: It's up to you, but we're gonna dive into shit anyway. [00:10:30] Speaker D: Yeah. My goal. And if you listen to some of our bonus episodes, when I talk about Reznor's goals with the arg, his goal was to get people to pay attention to what's happening in the current 2007, you know, political situation. [00:10:48] Speaker C: Right. [00:10:48] Speaker D: And how that could turn into something pretty awful. And no one apparently paid attention. [00:10:55] Speaker C: I think people did. But we really hated Bush and we were glad to have him out of there, I guess. [00:11:02] Speaker D: Yeah. And Obama was like. It really felt like something different and amazing to have a black man, you know, as a president. But that incited a huge backlash, so. [00:11:14] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:11:15] Speaker D: But my goal with this is to also make you pay attention. Maybe you don't live in America and so you don't really care. But the right, these fascist right wing ideas are spreading everywhere. [00:11:26] Speaker C: So just talking to my dad recently, I likened it to a right wing cancer spreading across the globe. That's how I see it these days. [00:11:36] Speaker D: It's gross and it's gonna kill you. Sorry. [00:11:40] Speaker C: He, a lifelong and still conservative, was like, yeah, yes, it is. He hates it. He's one of the like three never Trump Republicans that still exist in this. [00:11:54] Speaker D: Country and that actually, you know, didn't vote for Trump and lied about it. [00:11:57] Speaker C: This. It's like an endangered species type of person. [00:12:01] Speaker D: So what I want to talk about, and one thing I kind of left out in the intro to Year Zero, is what does Year zero refer to? Like, what exactly is it? And if you're just looking at a basic flat definition, Year zero is basically referring to the beginning of revolutionary change or the beginning of a new system or regime. And Trent really should have set this album in 2025. But let me tell you why he didn't know. Let me tell you why. Okay, so I just kind of was like googling around because I was like, oh, that's boring. There's got to be more ties, like something. And I'm going to attribute my lack of knowledge on this to just the American education system that prioritizes like Western civilization and American history. [00:12:53] Speaker C: Yeah, I didn't learn any of this shit, I don't think. [00:12:55] Speaker D: No, the most I learned about it was from dead Kennedys and we'll talk about that too. [00:12:58] Speaker C: But yeah, there's one certain song that taught me all about this. [00:13:02] Speaker D: Exactly. So I don't know how familiar people are with Pol Pot, with Cambodia or with the Khmer Rouge, but we're going to talk about those things right now. [00:13:13] Speaker C: It's time to get your history lesson from nailed. The place you definitely went to to learn. That's right, World political history. [00:13:23] Speaker D: So Year zero was a political theory that was put into practice by Pol Pot, who was a authoritarian dictator. [00:13:34] Speaker C: And we should preface, this is not the only way that the term Year Zero has been used. [00:13:38] Speaker D: No, no, no. But. [00:13:39] Speaker C: But it's a pretty significant seeming one. [00:13:41] Speaker D: Interesting. So. But basically this practice, what they do is they completely destroy all cultures and traditions within a society and replace it with a new culture starting from scratch. [00:13:55] Speaker C: Starting from zero. [00:13:57] Speaker D: All prior history is irrelevant because it is now purged and will be replaced. So the Khmer Rouge, which is the Communist Party who took over Cambodia, declared year zero to start on April 17, 1975. That was day one of year zero and year zero. The album was released on April 17, 2007 worldwide. [00:14:23] Speaker C: Holy shit. [00:14:24] Speaker D: 32 years later. [00:14:25] Speaker C: Do you think that was on purpose? [00:14:27] Speaker D: I don't know if it was on purpose or a coincidence, but I think it was on purpose. [00:14:30] Speaker C: It's a crazy. Yeah. And I had never heard of this until you told me. [00:14:36] Speaker D: I mean, you've heard of the Khmer Rouge and pole pop. [00:14:38] Speaker C: No, no, no. But I'd never heard of this date alignment. That the survivalism single. [00:14:43] Speaker D: No, no, no. It was the actual Year Zero album. [00:14:46] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay. That had to have been planned. I just didn't hear anyone talking about it. [00:14:50] Speaker D: And honestly, it could be buried in threads on ETS or various. You know, probably is on echoing the sound. I wasn't on there much, but I was not aware of this. I felt like the biggest dum dum. But I do want to draw some, like, just some background information about this, in case you don't know, because I. All I knew about Pol Pot was that he was a despot who was responsible for the death and genocide of millions of people. And they were buried in mass graves they call the killing fields of Cambodia. And also Jello Biafra was really the person who brought him to my attention because of the repeated chanting of Pol Pot at the end of Holiday in Cambodia. Thank you, punk rock, for my history education. [00:15:44] Speaker C: You're gonna know his name by the end of that song, that's for sure. [00:15:47] Speaker D: So Pol Pot was responsible for the genocide of 1.5 to 2 million Cambodians, which was about 25% of the population. And I just want to say let's not have that happen here. And by the way, you might be wondering who the Khmer Rouge targeted. So I just want to redo this little list here. They targeted Cambodia's previous military and political leaders. They targeted middle class professionals, they attacked business people, and they attacked intellectuals. And of course, they also targeted people of ethnic or religious minorities. There was a book that was published in 1977 called Cambodia Year Zero that was written by a French missionary named Francois Pancho. And this was one of the first pieces of media that brought attention to the Cambodian genocide to a larger audience. And just to kind of tie this in, because I want to point out this was 50 years ago. It's recent history. This happened. [00:16:45] Speaker C: Right. It's 20th century history. [00:16:47] Speaker D: Pol Pot was literally like, overthrown. And three years later I was born. Like, this is not something that happened like, you know, at the turn of a century or something. [00:16:57] Speaker C: Right. [00:16:59] Speaker D: So I just want to point out that this author he passed away this year, January 25th. [00:17:04] Speaker C: So the intellectual purge thing was a. Not just a Khmer Rouge thing, but like a Chairman Mao thing? [00:17:15] Speaker D: Yeah. I mean, a lot of this was. [00:17:16] Speaker C: Slaughtering what they called the intellectual class. [00:17:18] Speaker D: I mean, a lot of this was modeled after the Cultural Revolution in China. [00:17:21] Speaker C: Right, right. [00:17:22] Speaker D: I think Pol Pot wanted to take Cambodia back to a pre. Like, industrial agricultural society. [00:17:29] Speaker C: Yeah. That's crazy shit. I mean, in some ways, I also want that. [00:17:34] Speaker D: You want to be forced to work on a farm? [00:17:35] Speaker C: No, I don't want that. What I want is for us to throw away our smart devices. That's the kick I'm on. [00:17:42] Speaker D: I want to tell everyone right now that deleting my Instagram was the best thing that I've ever done. [00:17:46] Speaker C: It's freedom, baby. [00:17:48] Speaker D: I mean, I'm reading books again. [00:17:50] Speaker C: I'm slowly starting to read a little bit. [00:17:52] Speaker D: It's insane. [00:17:53] Speaker C: I'm still very attached to. I'm literally holding an iPad right now. [00:17:58] Speaker D: Well, I mean, I'm on a laptop. [00:17:59] Speaker C: I'm not throwing stones at people. [00:18:01] Speaker D: No, definitely not. [00:18:01] Speaker C: I'm just saying I'm starting to open my eyes to hating these fucking things and I'm sounding like a fucking grandpa. I know. I know I am, but that's just how I'm feeling these days. [00:18:13] Speaker D: Yeah. So anyway, just some interesting historical information I thought I would pass on. [00:18:18] Speaker C: Yeah. Not to frighten anyone. So. Yeah. Starting from zero. Erasing the past culturally, however. I wonder how long did. How long did they keep that. Pol Pot's calendar, I wonder. [00:18:37] Speaker D: Oh, I don't know how long this calendar. I know he was overthrown in 79, so he reigned for this bad shit. Almost 2 million people were killed in, like four years. [00:18:46] Speaker C: Yeah, that's Holocaust shit. Obviously. But they only got to year four. [00:18:53] Speaker D: It was like the third year. [00:18:55] Speaker C: Maybe that's one of the only heartening things out of all this is that these. Well, these fascist movements. [00:19:01] Speaker D: Unless you were in China and that Cultural Revolution was. [00:19:04] Speaker C: I know they're not. I know that they're not fascist. They were communists. But they're similarly extreme in the. These movements burn themselves out quickly. Historically, they can't seem to last long. I mean, it's horrific. [00:19:18] Speaker D: Only hope with the United States is we're too big. [00:19:23] Speaker C: Yeah, well, we're too big to control. [00:19:25] Speaker D: Like, oh, they'll get there eventually, I believe. I. There are ways that they can control us. And I think that's had a very chilling effect on everyday people speech. Like, I don't. I feel kind of paranoid sometimes and that's how it works. Right? They just kind of instill that fear, and they hope for that chilled speech, and they hope that no one speaks up about it, because that's what they depend on. [00:19:48] Speaker C: So, anyway, we're talking about survivalism. Yeah, apparently. [00:19:52] Speaker D: Sorry, I don't know how we. [00:19:55] Speaker C: I don't know how this happened, but. [00:19:57] Speaker D: Next, let's talk about survivalism. So I do want to add a little bit more about the artwork. So a bit after we recorded our original Halo 23 episode, Rob Sheridan posted to his Instagram on January 27th of this year. [00:20:10] Speaker C: Of course. Like, right after we recorded it. [00:20:12] Speaker D: Yeah. And if you want, you can go to his Instagram to find it. It's still up. But he was just talking a little bit about how it was made, and he said, digital glitching data, corruption of stills from the music video I directed with. And he. He added bottom of the pyramid. Like, he. I believe that is Alex Liu's art account, who was like the. Who is like the creative director of 42 Entertainment, so. And I also think he designed all the cool, like, police state and presence posters, because I found his official website and they were on there, but they are sold out, obviously. They're really always loved, the fascist militarized police posters. I don't know why. I just think they're cool. [00:20:57] Speaker C: I need to see some of those again. I think I've seen them, but I forgot. [00:21:00] Speaker D: Yeah. Anyway, to go on. [00:21:02] Speaker C: Yeah. But when we last talked about survivalism, we were, like, 99% certain that the COVID art could be attributed to Sheridan, but now he confirmed it, probably for our benefit, I'm assuming, even though we hadn't released the episode. I don't think. [00:21:20] Speaker D: Anyway, I mean, isn't this possible that this was up on his Patreon? But I don't subscribe to it because I have this fear of, like, I don't know, talking about the content that is paid for. [00:21:31] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, we don't want to do that. Spoil people's paywalled stuff. [00:21:36] Speaker D: Exactly. So I've never subscribed to his Patreon for that reason. Anyway, the interior gatefold image is a heavily glitched photo of the rated trash performance room from the end of the music video. After the SWAT team has relocated, the band relocated. In the world, there's a pool, There's. [00:21:54] Speaker C: A trail of blood. Yeah. [00:21:56] Speaker D: In the world of Year Zero, sweeps are conducted without warning on anyone suspected to be participating in any number of behaviors or lifestyles deemed wrong by the Bureau of Morality, including protest art. Just Some vibes that have been on my mind. [00:22:12] Speaker C: I feel like ICE is the. The current fed boogeyman. Carrying out unplanned raids, dragging away whoever they want. Man, if you hate feds, shouldn't be allowing ICE in your town. But that's a whole separate thing. Stop these folks. [00:22:33] Speaker D: Wasn't ICE created under Bush Patriot act stuff? [00:22:37] Speaker C: I'm pretty sure it was, yeah. [00:22:39] Speaker D: So let's talk about the argument. There was a clue in survivalism. So let's talk about that. And Blake, I think you have some stuff to play with us. [00:22:48] Speaker C: I have some good stuff for this arg clue. [00:22:52] Speaker D: So on 3-13-2007, the GarageBand files for survivalism were released on nion.com and if you downloaded those files along with survivalism, there was a bunch of different files listed and one of them was called survivalism. Our end trip, which is an anagram for put in order that had some weird sounds. And players found that if you arrange the left channel, I'm gonna like I'm just gonna read this and you can correct me or whatever. [00:23:24] Speaker C: I'll clarify. [00:23:24] Speaker D: Okay. So players found that if you arrange the left channel of the sample in such an order that the tones in the right channel are incremental. A voice reads a case number. This case number was what was discovered, like what was. [00:23:39] Speaker C: So I love this clue because of how multi part it is. You have you hide something in the GarageBand files for people who want to remix. I love that that's where it's located. I love that I love anagrams and word games. So I love that it's an anagram hour end trip becomes put in order. I'm not sure what other words you could make out of that, but I would have loved to been part of the process of whoever decoded that. I'm sure it probably happened pretty quickly. These people are clever. Anyway, put in order. So what the fuck does that mean when you're presented with this clip And I'll play the clip here and turn up your. Turn up your speaker so you can hear clearly. Play it again. The left channel is mostly a like sounds like a chopped up human voice. The right side is like synth tones. Seemingly random. Different pitches. [00:24:50] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:24:51] Speaker C: Very rapidly. So at some point someone figured out put in order means put the tones in order that you're hearing in the right channel from lowest to highest. Here's one where I balanced out because the right channel with the tones is really quiet compared to the choppy voice. This is a clip where I balance them out to be a little More equal so you can hear those random synth tones more clearly. So I would. I don't know how long this took, but I tried to myself put it together by chopping it up and Reaper moving the pieces around. This would take a long ass time. It's way more difficult than I thought it would be. This is how far I got. And that took. [00:25:50] Speaker D: Play it again. [00:25:52] Speaker C: That took me at least 15 minutes. 1. Maybe I'm too dumb for it and the people who decoded this are better at it than me, but I think I'm pretty good at audio editing. But it just would have taken all day. So I. I gave up and I'm just gonna play the. Since it's already been solved. I just said fuck it, it's been solved. Okay, we'll play the in order version. This is what it sounds like. Case number 6455 being 804 low to high. Still choppy, but you can hear him reading the case number. This is one where I'm just playing the left channel. So you're hearing almost none of the. The tones and the voice is more clear. [00:26:36] Speaker E: Case number 645504. [00:26:43] Speaker C: I want to know who the actors they got to do all These recordings were. AI voice was not good enough in 2007 to sound like. [00:26:53] Speaker D: I don't know, it kind of reminds me of robocalls. Like if you call someplace and. [00:26:57] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, for sure. [00:26:58] Speaker D: Okay. So you might be wondering, what is that case number? [00:27:03] Speaker C: What's all this leading to? Like this better be something good with all this work. [00:27:08] Speaker D: So it leads to the a case number for a patient. And this is in the world of year zero. Just want to make sure to a person who was a patient at the Judsonogram. I'm guessing that's how you say it. Judson Ogram or Judson Ogram. [00:27:24] Speaker C: I really don't know. [00:27:26] Speaker D: Judson Ogram sounds weird. I don't know. Anyway, I don't know. I'm just gonna say the JOC. [00:27:32] Speaker C: Don't call it that. [00:27:32] Speaker D: I think the Judson Ogram. [00:27:34] Speaker C: And speaking of anagrams, Correctional Facility. [00:27:37] Speaker D: That's another anagram, but we'll talk about that more. [00:27:39] Speaker C: That's not for this episode. [00:27:40] Speaker D: That's not for this episode. Okay, but in fact, that was the Judson Ogram Correctional Facility. I think that site was found from clues in the survivalism music video. [00:27:50] Speaker C: Hmm. Yeah. From the like Bible verse stuff, I think. [00:27:54] Speaker D: Yeah, I think so. So anyway, this was a patient named Moira. And just to do a quick overview, I'm sure we'll get more into this in bonus apps. But the inmates at this correctional facility were pretty much just used as guinea pigs for C. Decor, which is a pharmaceutical company in this world that is responsible for the manufacturing of several drugs, including parapin. And by the way, I thought of another song to parody for our para commercial. [00:28:22] Speaker C: Good. I need one because we still got to make that. [00:28:24] Speaker D: Okay, so Ruby's paraffin. [00:28:27] Speaker C: Oh, right. Yeah. [00:28:29] Speaker D: You listen. The chorus. [00:28:36] Speaker E: I smell like paraffin. [00:28:39] Speaker C: Stretch my neck to look up to him. [00:28:42] Speaker D: I mean, I'd want to change the words because I don't know what paraffin smells like. But the chorus is now I smell like paraffin, and I think paraffin. [00:28:49] Speaker C: Now I'm taking parapin. The song is pretty, like, melancholy sounding at best, Right? I think you would need it to be a little jauntier because paraffin's supposed to perk your mood up, right? It doesn't. We'll figure something out. [00:29:06] Speaker D: Okay, so this was mainly used to house dissidents or people who speak publicly about the presence. And Moira was transferred from an emergency room to the facility. She was arrested after use of opal and mention of contact with the presence. And this was basically a preventative measure to make sure she doesn't speak out more about the presence. I mean, we can get into more. There's a whole long interview transcript that you can read. I don't know how in depth I should go on this. I don't know how. I mean, she's. I don't think she's like a main character in this world, but a side character. Yeah. But throughout these websites, there is text from various banned media in the world of year zero. And on her. I think it's on her transcript page or interview page. I can't remember which. But I mean, sorry, I think it's on her transcript page. Or just like the medical bill out page. I don't know which. But the text for her pages, one comes from the Communist Manifesto, and the quote there says, a specter is haunting Europe. The specter of communism. All the powers of old Europe have entered into holy alliance to exercise the specter. Pope and Czar, Metternich and Gulzat. I don't know how to say that, guys. Or, wait, no, sorry, that's an I. Metternich and Guizot. I don't know. [00:30:32] Speaker C: What are those means? What's those means? [00:30:34] Speaker D: I don't know. [00:30:35] Speaker C: I don't know. Not smart enough. [00:30:36] Speaker D: I'm not looking up. I did too much work on the Khmer Rouge today. I'm not really sure. [00:30:39] Speaker C: We're not getting that deep. [00:30:41] Speaker D: French radicals and German police spies. And the other quote was from the Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the west by Gregory Maguire. [00:30:49] Speaker C: That's funny that that's in there. Is it? Let me guess, the quote. Does it say popular? I want to be popular. [00:30:55] Speaker D: No, it's not the quote. I'm just gonna read it. The decades Fiyero thought. I hope it's pronounced Fierro. I don't know. The decades Fiyero thought in love with her, or at least so frightened for her that he could mistake it for love. The decades looked on and didn't see her passing. They stared from their fixed mounts across at each other and didn't see the revolution striding between them on her way to destiny. I haven't read the book, but. [00:31:23] Speaker C: Nor I. [00:31:24] Speaker D: The book has been banned in several schools in Florida, which is kind of a ground zero for. [00:31:29] Speaker C: Oh, really? [00:31:30] Speaker D: Yeah, a lot of like these crazy laws. I feel like Oklahoma and Florida and Texas are like ground zero for these, like really horrible punitive measures. [00:31:40] Speaker C: Should I do that one in banned Book Club? We never thought about that one. [00:31:44] Speaker D: But it has been banned in several schools in Florida as it addresses themes like morality, power and corruption. [00:31:50] Speaker C: You cannot learn about morality. [00:31:51] Speaker D: Nope, you can't. [00:31:52] Speaker C: Unless it comes from the state. [00:31:54] Speaker D: And it contains content about drinking, drugs, rape, prostitution, crime and sex parties between humans and animals. Listen, I have not read the book. [00:32:02] Speaker C: Wicked. Is that filthy? I don't think the musical was that nasty. I haven't seen either. [00:32:08] Speaker D: I don't know. I know it is kind of racy, but I also have not ever read the book. [00:32:13] Speaker C: I think the book's way weirder than the kind of sanitized musical. [00:32:17] Speaker D: Yeah, so that's what I have. Just kind of briefly, that little clue. Of course, you would have had to know where to put that in if you. If they had discovered the Judson Ogram site, there was a. I believe it was on the staff page. At the very bottom there was like a login credential area. And you could use that password along with that case number to pull up this information. [00:32:40] Speaker C: Right. [00:32:41] Speaker D: To just kind of get you in that world, you know, world building. That's all it is. [00:32:46] Speaker C: Sure. So the reward was to learn more about this world. [00:32:53] Speaker D: Do you want to talk a little bit about the similarity of survivalism to the hand that feeds? [00:32:58] Speaker C: Yes, I do. So survivalism and the hand that feeds are in the same key and very close to the same tempo. If you switch, you know, divide survivalism's tempo by two. Whether you're counting it by double time or not doesn't really matter. Basically the same thing I've heard people accuse. I think this is when people started making comparisons between, like, Nine Inch Nails lead singles and being like, oh, it's. He's in singles mode again. It's this type of song again. They are really different songs, but when you start to play with the elements to match them up, you notice similar similarities. They fit nicely over each other. I was like, oh, shit. I should do A Hand that Feeds music with survivalism lyrics over the top. But someone had obviously already done that long ago, because it was. It's a pretty. Pretty obvious similarity. So I'm going to. Instead of making my own, I'm going to play theirs. I'll play a snippet of theirs and then I'll play something different that I did. Okay. This is on YouTube. By the sleep of reason, the hand that feeds survivalism mashup. [00:34:32] Speaker E: Listen to her. So hard to keep control we kept on eating but our bloated belly still not full. She gave us all she had. [00:34:48] Speaker D: But. [00:34:52] Speaker C: Pretty catchy. Switch it up a little bit. [00:35:22] Speaker E: I got my fist, I got my. [00:35:24] Speaker C: Plan I got survival as all damn pretty fun, right? [00:35:29] Speaker D: That's fire. [00:35:30] Speaker C: Goes well together by design. I don't know. Let me play you what I made. It's a. I'll call it a reverse mashup. [00:35:44] Speaker E: You're keeping stump in the line Got your chin held high and you feel just fine. Cause you do what you tone but inside your heart it is black and it's hollow. [00:35:59] Speaker D: Honestly, this could just go on year zero. [00:36:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, it's political. [00:36:03] Speaker E: So will you bite the hand at feeds? Will you chew until it bleeds? Can you get up off your knees? Are you brave enough to see? Do, do you wanna change? Yeah. One of these old crusades. [00:36:27] Speaker C: You get the idea. That was fun to make, I bet. Bobbing our heads along to that. [00:36:33] Speaker D: So one more thing we were talking about, like, the Caroline Polachek gasps and the survivalism Reznor gasps. I want to add to other gasps to the Gasp hall of fame. [00:36:47] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, we missed a big, important one. [00:36:49] Speaker D: One is Fontaine's DC from their latest album. There's a song called Starburster, and the chorus is these, like, huge, like, gasps. And what I like best about that is at the end when the lead vocalist is, like, gagging. [00:37:04] Speaker C: Yeah. It's almost like making fun of the extreme gasp and a laugh. Wait, I want to say the lyric. Oh, I Don't think I ever understood what he was saying. But it's because he's British. That's why I'm gonna hit your business. If it's momentary blissness, I think he's Irish. [00:37:48] Speaker D: You don't want to say British too, in Irish. [00:37:50] Speaker C: I'll check that out. I couldn't understand the lyric because of his accent, which I love. I love Irish people. Don't be mad at me. [00:38:07] Speaker D: Hold on, I'm checking. [00:38:08] Speaker C: Anyway, blissness is not a word, but who cares? They don't put the giant gasps in the lyrics on Spotify. They should put in, like, parentheses. Inhale. [00:38:18] Speaker D: Yes, they are Irish. [00:38:20] Speaker C: Okay. [00:38:21] Speaker D: The other gasp is Slater's James Dean. Like, towards the end, she does this. [00:38:27] Speaker C: Like, huge, like, Hang on, I don't remember that. So. And I like that song. [00:38:33] Speaker D: It's towards the end. [00:38:34] Speaker C: I think Slater has, like. [00:38:36] Speaker D: Is that the energy's like. And it's not giving. [00:38:39] Speaker C: That's such a good moment. Slater has, like, 15 fans in this world, and I don't know why, but I'm. I'm the biggest one. I'm second biggest. Jess's biggest. [00:38:49] Speaker D: Yeah, probably. [00:38:56] Speaker C: New song. [00:39:02] Speaker D: Nice. [00:39:03] Speaker C: That's a good one. Yeah, that's a good one. [00:39:06] Speaker D: Anyway, so for fans of. [00:39:08] Speaker C: For fans of exaggerated inhalation. [00:39:11] Speaker D: Inhalations. Yeah, check it out. Yeah. Or fans of St. Louis hyper pop. I don't know what you call her, but. Got it. Gotta promote our regional girlies. [00:39:23] Speaker C: Where's. Is it 100 GEX from there, too. Okay. Yes. The St. Louis Hyper Pop scene is popping off right now. Not only should 100 GEX come back and open for Nin again, I want to see Slater, man, that would go down so nice. I would love that Slater open for Nin. Please, please, please. [00:39:43] Speaker D: Especially her new single, because that single. [00:39:45] Speaker C: Is, like, her fan base is extremely gay. So it would work with. [00:39:51] Speaker D: It would totally. I agree. [00:39:53] Speaker C: I think it would work well. [00:39:55] Speaker D: Okay, so I guess our last thing. I guess we can just go over the lyrics just a little bit. If you don't like political speech, I guess you can just tune this out. [00:40:05] Speaker C: You won't like the lyrics to the song. You start. [00:40:08] Speaker D: I'll start. I'll start with the first verse. I should have listened to her so hard to keep control we kept on eating but our bloated, bloated belly still not full she gave us all she had but we went and took some more can't seem to shut her legs Our mother nature is a whore Naughty, naughty. [00:40:25] Speaker C: I should have listened to her. Who the fuck's her. [00:40:31] Speaker D: I think he's referring to Mother Nature, and I think this is referring to climate catastrophe. I should have listened to her. So hard to keep control. But we kept going anyway, like we currently are. Right? [00:40:45] Speaker C: Yeah. It's like I should have listened to the warnings. The warning. Hello. [00:40:52] Speaker D: But I mean, think about it. So when Trent was probably thinking more politically, it was post Katrina, right? I mean, this was just what, two years after three years. Two years after one year. Katrina. Katrina was 2005. [00:41:04] Speaker C: Yeah. A couple years after. [00:41:06] Speaker D: So. Yeah. So I think that put him in kind of that mode, Right? [00:41:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:11] Speaker D: But think of all the things that have happened since. [00:41:14] Speaker C: Yeah. This whole verse is just. We're destroying Earth by our. Through consumerism, capitalism, extractive consumerist methods of. [00:41:28] Speaker D: I mean, we're finding out new ways to do it, like fracking and shit. Like, how else can we ruin the planet? [00:41:33] Speaker C: Let's frack more efficient, frightening ways to burn through the Earth's resources. [00:41:42] Speaker D: So basically we took all the resources we could, but we're gonna keep figuring out how to get more. [00:41:47] Speaker C: Right. And you can. Yeah, just little piggies being. Being never being full is the imagery I'm getting. [00:41:55] Speaker D: Just the greed and gluttony and once again, greed. So the chorus. [00:42:00] Speaker C: The chorus. I got my propaganda, I got revisionism. [00:42:05] Speaker D: Look what's going on right now, people. President Trump said that January 6th is a day of happiness, not a day of insurrection. Not a day where violent things happen, not a day where cops were beat up. By the way, Republicans are supposed to love fucking cops. So I don't know what's going on there. [00:42:19] Speaker C: People who assaulted cops have now been given a get out of jail free card. [00:42:24] Speaker D: They've all been released. Yes. So anyway, that's some revisionist history that we are living through right now. As well as the removal of. Of trans people from the Stonewall National Monument site whenever trans people basically started the Stonewall riots. [00:42:41] Speaker C: Okay, so it's from the. Is the chorus part from the same point of view of who. Who is the whole. Who's the POV character, if there is one. [00:42:50] Speaker D: You know, I wondered, is it maybe some kind of militia survivalist leader? I. Maybe someone who has. [00:42:59] Speaker C: It's someone very desperate who is at. And we talked about this in the last survivalism episode, but someone kind of at the end of their rope with everything and willing to do a kind of any means necessary last stand, maybe. [00:43:15] Speaker D: So I got my violence and high def ultra realism. I think this plays on a few things here. [00:43:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:43:20] Speaker D: Number one, the extremely inherent violence of American society not only in the like actual physical violence form, but in the systems we put in place to. [00:43:33] Speaker C: Yeah, and I love the term high def in here. It's extremely 2007 when for the children listening technology was emerging that they called HD and it, you know, looked crisper and there were more scan lines than old TVs. So we get. We had just recently or. No, we were still seeing footage from the Middle east of America getting in there and fucking shit up. [00:43:58] Speaker D: I kind of also. Oh, sorry. [00:44:00] Speaker C: Seeing it in hd. No, go ahead. [00:44:02] Speaker D: No, I also kind of think this is. This is kind of dumb. But it also has to do with rampant like consumerism and capitalism. But the high def ultra. It made me think this is probably way off base but of like the idea of keeping up with the Joneses where you have to have. Because this was a new ish, like thing at the time. Do you know what I mean when I say keeping up with the Joneses? [00:44:23] Speaker C: Oh yeah, of course. [00:44:24] Speaker D: Right. So people who are like, I have to have more. I have to have the most up to date tech. I have to have something better than what this person next to me has. [00:44:33] Speaker C: Like I have to have the iPad. 12. [00:44:34] Speaker D: Yes. [00:44:35] Speaker C: Not the 11. [00:44:36] Speaker D: Yes. Like constant, like just competing through purchasing shit, basically. I mean, shit you don't need necessarily. [00:44:45] Speaker C: I have to have the new model of truck every year. [00:44:48] Speaker D: Yeah. Or the newest iPhone every year, which is. I know some people need it for work. Like my brother in law, he works in medicine in the field of healthcare and he has to have like a. They give him like new iPads and stuff all the time. But I feel like that's a little bit different anyway. [00:45:06] Speaker C: Seems excessive, but okay. [00:45:08] Speaker D: All a part of this great nation. I think that kind of. [00:45:12] Speaker C: Yeah, I think he just. I think mostly that line is in there too because it's catchy when sung in the way that it is. [00:45:19] Speaker D: And also it's just like dripping, like I said, with like the sarcasm. Like really. It's the way in which it's read. [00:45:25] Speaker C: That implies the meaning is the nation. Great. That's a very loaded word here. I got my fist, I got my plan, I got survival. That gets back to this character's desperation. Has nothing left other than his possibly throwing his own body against the regime. I'm reading into it a lot, but. [00:45:54] Speaker D: Yeah, I'm not really quite sure on what's going on. [00:45:59] Speaker C: A lot of this is very vague, symbolic. You can interpret whatever the fuck you want. I think that's what he wanted. [00:46:06] Speaker D: I mean you could interpret this as good or bad, I guess. Like, is survivalism good or bad? And I don't want people to think that. I think, like, knowing how to can food or something is bad. Like, I have no. [00:46:16] Speaker C: It's good. We should all be doing that. [00:46:18] Speaker D: Like, we should have, like, basic survival skills in case of something happening, because the government ain't gonna help ya. So I. I don't think it's bad. For me, it's when it turns into, like, these militia movements and when people become off the grid and it's a violent movement. Like, more of a separatist thing than it is just having survival skills. Like, there's a difference between, like, ballerina farm, which I think is horrible for, like, many different reasons. And I can get into that later. But there's a difference between, like, the, you know, ballerina farm type of knowing how to, I don't know, make bubblegum from scratch. [00:46:52] Speaker C: The tradwife. [00:46:53] Speaker D: The trad wife. Yeah, the trad wife lifestyle. And then the. Which I actually think is harmful, but I'm not gonna talk about why. And then the. Like, a separatist militant movement. And usually those are associated with, you know, white supremacy, that kind of thing. [00:47:09] Speaker C: So this character in the lyrics could be possibly part of some militia. Their ideology. We don't totally know the. But the viewpoint, I think, is a little all over the place in this song. By design. [00:47:26] Speaker D: So let's talk about the next chorus. Sorry. The next verse. Hypnotic sound of sirens echoing through the street. The cocking of the rifles, the marching of the feet. So I want to stop here for a second. [00:47:36] Speaker C: We heard the marching of the feet and the hyper power. [00:47:39] Speaker D: We did in America. How often do you hear the cocking of the rifles and the marching of the feet on streets, city streets, public streets? [00:47:50] Speaker C: You don't, so. [00:47:53] Speaker D: Exactly. [00:47:54] Speaker C: Not often. Not often. [00:47:55] Speaker D: Exactly. [00:47:55] Speaker C: You see it on TV a lot. [00:47:57] Speaker D: This puts you in that world. Right. So it's obviously a very violent world where the military, Something has seized control. Because that is not something that is necessarily normal. [00:48:10] Speaker C: Sirens. Of course, it brings to mind martial law. [00:48:12] Speaker D: Mm. [00:48:14] Speaker C: And that type of thing. [00:48:15] Speaker D: Yes. You see your world on fire. Don't try to act surprised. We did just what you told us. Lost our faith along the way and found ourselves believing your lies. [00:48:23] Speaker C: Yeah. I think we talked about this when we talked about the Los Angeles fires. [00:48:28] Speaker D: But I think it's also just in other ways. Right. It's not on fire. Just literally. [00:48:32] Speaker C: Yeah, I know, I know. It's just the poetic. [00:48:37] Speaker D: Way of saying you're fucked. I mean, you see Your world on fire. Don't try to act surprised. [00:48:42] Speaker C: Yeah. Like you were warned. You were warned. [00:48:44] Speaker D: And I'm not sure if the speaker of the song is addressing the government previously, who. [00:48:52] Speaker C: Well, he says, we did just what you told us. So we followed your instructions, Mr. State. [00:48:59] Speaker D: But we lost all our faith and just believe you now. Or at one point did. [00:49:06] Speaker C: Right. [00:49:07] Speaker D: Believing those lies telling us that climate change isn't real or. I don't know. [00:49:13] Speaker C: That was alluded to in the beginning of the end, I think. What was the line on all our lies? We depend. [00:49:21] Speaker D: Mm. Yeah. And that's when I talked about something, and I kind of want to address that, too. I think the term I was looking for was more of like a willful ignorance on the part of a lot of people in this country who don't want to. [00:49:33] Speaker C: Don't want to look at the things that are extremely upsetting or uncomfortable. [00:49:38] Speaker D: Yes. So thinking about things like homelessness and blaming it on the person instead of, you know, a system that we have in place that is exploitative and cruel. Instead of thinking about that. [00:49:49] Speaker C: Right. [00:49:50] Speaker D: You know, you just kind of have this attitude of look away, I guess, and just kind of tell yourself that it's their fault, their own fault. [00:50:00] Speaker C: So we've lost. [00:50:01] Speaker D: Or they're faking it. Sorry, one of you. [00:50:03] Speaker C: We've lost whatever faith or beliefs we had, and it's now being replaced by state lies. Okay, chorus again, same thing. [00:50:15] Speaker D: All right. You can do the. [00:50:17] Speaker C: We have a rare Nine Inch Nails third verse. [00:50:20] Speaker D: That's all you. [00:50:21] Speaker C: Never happens. Maybe you can consider it bridge. But it's really just First. All bruised and broken, bleeding. She asks to take my hand. We have another. She put a pin in that. I turn and keep on walking. What? You do the same. This is a weird sentence. [00:50:39] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:50:40] Speaker C: What? You do the same thing in the circumstance. I'm sure you'd understand. Now I'm looking at Ninwiki. I think there's some different differing opinions on the first word of that. What? You'd do the same thing in the circumstance. I'm sure you understand. You get the idea. [00:50:58] Speaker D: Yeah. Read that differently. Read it as what? You do the same thing in the circumstance. I'm sure you'd understand. You have to read it like that. [00:51:06] Speaker C: The way I first heard it. And I think this works almost better once you do the same thing in the circumstance. I sure you understand. Oh, hang on, hang on. Okay. That's what. What is printed in the. The lyrics. But as Ninwiki tells us, which he sometimes will do the last lines of the third verse are changed to the following on the actual recording. I turn, just keep on walking. What? You do the same thing in the circumstance, I'm sure you. You will understand. So it's this. Okay, it's the same thing. [00:51:42] Speaker D: So we just changed the contraction? Yeah, instead of you'd. [00:51:46] Speaker C: I'm sure. No, there's no apostrophe D. I'm sure you understand becomes I'm sure you'll understand. We're just. We're being really pedantic right now, but. [00:51:55] Speaker D: Oh, okay. [00:51:55] Speaker C: Doesn't matter that much. Same. You get the concept. Don't judge me for leaving a dying lady in the road. Once you get to this point of desperation, you would do the same thing. So don't judge me. [00:52:15] Speaker D: Do you think he's actually talking about Mother Nature again at all? [00:52:19] Speaker C: This is where metaphors are getting a little mixed. So I'm not sure she. I don't think so. I think maybe we're just talking about. [00:52:28] Speaker D: A random person asking for help, and instead it's like, sorry, I gotta protect myself kind of situation. [00:52:34] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. Sorry. Got mine, got mine. Fuck you. The motto of this album. Yeah. So you're just gonna let someone die, but don't judge until you're in that circumstance. I don't think I'd let someone die. [00:52:55] Speaker D: We'd like to think that, but what do you know until it actually happens? [00:52:58] Speaker C: Right? [00:52:59] Speaker D: I mean, I've seen people before. I mean, just here in downtown Springfield. I was meeting up with my friend Robin, and she was late. And she came in and she's like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry I'm late. She was like, I saw a woman collapse on the street, like, on the sidewalk as I was walking from where I parked my car. And people were just stepping over her, like, no one helped her. And I went over to her and I was like, do you need something? Yeah, do you want me to call 911? Like, are you okay? But people were just walking around her. And I think you see that a lot. Like, I think some of it, though, is just people don't know what to do or how to react. [00:53:37] Speaker C: In emergency type, we're so trained to, like, look the other way. And I'm in a job where I am sometimes the person who has to call the ambulance or whatever. I try not to ignore people's crisis. Crises, which I see a lot at my job. But you can. You can get jaded to it as well. So I try to. [00:54:04] Speaker D: What do they call that? Empathy? Wait, you have A word for it. It's basically you start losing all empathy. [00:54:12] Speaker C: Oh. [00:54:13] Speaker D: Maybe it's just like a fatigue. Like empathy. [00:54:17] Speaker C: Empathy fatigue. Yeah. I have heard that. Yeah, that's definitely talked about in training for my job. It's a real thing. Okay. Wow. We've gone on a long time for survivalism. [00:54:30] Speaker D: Sorry, guys. Actually, it feels good to rant about things. [00:54:34] Speaker C: Sometimes you just gotta rant. It's been a. Gonna have to put a warning at the front of this one. It's been like. It's gonna say, like, we're just gonna rant and you've been warned. [00:54:46] Speaker D: Yeah. And I guess what I want to say is just, you know, take care of yourself, but also take care of other people. I don't know what to say anymore. [00:54:57] Speaker C: At least respect their humanity. Don't ever let yourself forget that even the biggest asshole coming across the border without papers is a human being whose soul is worth the same as yours. And I don't think we say that enough. It's like unhoused people again. I once heard I had a training on working with unsheltered people, and the trainer guy was like, homeless people get judged a lot for the way they act. Are some of them going to be assholes? Yes, of course. You know who else might be an asshole? Your boss, the wealthiest person. You know, people in your community who are sheltered are also assholes. We can't just write off an entire type of person because some of them do things we don't like. I think that's what we do with our scapegoated groups, such as the unsheltered and immigrants. And we put. I think we put too much emphasis on having those goddamn papers. [00:56:14] Speaker D: I don't believe in borders, so don't. [00:56:16] Speaker C: Fuck your fucking borders, dude. [00:56:17] Speaker D: They're not real. You made them up. You. [00:56:20] Speaker C: If you. I don't understand. People worship these borders like you're worshiping the state when you do that. [00:56:26] Speaker D: I just feel like all of this is made up. And part of me is all for a year. Zero of a certain type, but not the kind that the people in power want. I just fucking want my friends to have health care and to be safe and not be scared to walk because they're queer, you know, at night or for women to feel safe walking around at night. And I just. Did I already say healthcare. I just want people to have homes and shelter. I don't know. [00:56:52] Speaker C: All right, maybe I'll put a big AI voice rant warning at the beginning of this. Just in a phony voice. You're entering the rant zone. Total Dennis Miller type show. [00:57:04] Speaker D: Oh, I need a Dennis Miller ism. [00:57:07] Speaker C: Dennis Miller ism. Like what? [00:57:09] Speaker D: I don't know. Like I don't know what he does. He always wiggled his head, had that stupid little mullet. [00:57:18] Speaker C: Yeah, I can't. I can't do it. He was the best at doing that. That was his one trick. He was a one trick pony. [00:57:24] Speaker D: Well, obviously. I mean, where is he now? Probably on Fox News or some shit, I don't know. [00:57:30] Speaker C: Last I checked, he was on conservative radio. [00:57:32] Speaker D: Yeah, sad. [00:57:33] Speaker C: He'd really lost his. The bloom was off the rose on that guy. Big time. Not that there was much bloom. Okay, we have to move on and to our. [00:57:44] Speaker D: Let's wrap this up. [00:57:46] Speaker C: Our wrap up stuff. [00:57:48] Speaker D: So coming up next in the main feed, we will talk about the Good Soldier. [00:57:53] Speaker C: One of my favorite songs on this album. A song I love. [00:57:58] Speaker D: It's a great song. And our next bonus EP will be for the survivalism music video. So we'll be going over the video, the ARG elements of the video, that. [00:58:10] Speaker C: Kind of thing by the time you hear this. I think we've recently put out a bonus episode about. We've already done one about the history of ARGs. We also recorded one the background for the year zero argument. And I think most of our bonus feed will be talking about this thing because it's so big. [00:58:29] Speaker D: Yeah, it's so big. [00:58:31] Speaker C: And speaking of that, if you want that bonus content twice the nailed, go to patreon.com nailedpod for as little as $5 a month twice the podcast Discord exclusive. Discord Access. People love it in there. Come chat with us. Come disagree with our opinions. Oh, yeah, please, no, don't start fights. You have to agree with us or we'll kick you out. [00:59:00] Speaker D: Or just be polite. Just be polite. [00:59:02] Speaker C: Yeah, just be nice. You have to be kind in there. That's literally on the rules. Yeah. Oh, and some of the people who have recently joined. I'm gonna shout you out as we used to do, but we've forgot to do for a while. Thank you to recent Patreon subscribers, Crispers, Whispers. Very interesting handle. Adam John, someone named Hoppy. [00:59:30] Speaker D: Hoppy. [00:59:31] Speaker C: Someone named Wiggle Worm. [00:59:33] Speaker D: Wiggle Worm. [00:59:34] Speaker C: Love that. And four weeks ago, can't remember if I've read this, but someone named Trent. [00:59:42] Speaker D: Oh my God. [00:59:43] Speaker C: The last name's not Reznor and I'm not gonna. I don't read last names, so I'm not gonna dox him, but holy. We got a Trent in here Trent. [00:59:52] Speaker D: Reznor I know it is all right. He's excited. He loves Year zero. [00:59:56] Speaker C: Thank you to anyone who ever supported us and thank you just for listening. Even if you don't give us a cent, we still love you for listening. [01:00:02] Speaker D: Please don't hate us for getting our no, write a releasing our frustration. Our pent up frustration and if you want, hey send us an email. We'll read it. [01:00:13] Speaker C: Yes, nailedpod.com has all of our contact info and everything including merch store and go give us a five star if you like us Spotify or Apple music review. We don't get a lot and those really help us. Don't do a review about how you hate our politics. Just listen to maybe there's a right wing nine Inch Nails podcast out there somewhere. [01:00:42] Speaker D: Oh my God, wouldn't that be insane if there was? [01:00:44] Speaker C: I do not think there is. [01:00:45] Speaker D: I mean there is a mere world that I think we're trapped in right now. Or up is down and left is right and two plus two, it's five. [01:00:53] Speaker C: People wear shoes on their heads. Goofy stuff. [01:00:59] Speaker D: Read Naomi Klein's book, it's amazing. And she it is called Doppelganger. [01:01:08] Speaker C: No, let's not get into that. We got to get out of here. I think you've told me. [01:01:11] Speaker D: Anyway, it's the whole mere world theory. Just read it. [01:01:14] Speaker C: All right. Sorry, this ran long and ranty. Thank you for listening. And Jessica What? Hey. [01:01:23] Speaker D: What? [01:01:24] Speaker C: Can we stop. [01:01:32] Speaker E: You? Will you stay down on your knees? Will you bite the hand that f you? Will you stay down Your leg? Will you bite the head your fe. Will you stay down? Will you bite the hand that feeds you? Will you stay down on your knees? Will you bite the hand that feeds you? Will you stay down on your knees? [01:02:16] Speaker D: Robot.